HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON
POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE

WILLIAM D. FORD, Michigan, Chairman WILLIAM (BILL) CLAY, Missouri

GENE TAYLOR, Missouri PATRICIA SCHROEDER, Colorado

BENJAMIN A. GILMAN, New York STEPHEN J. SOLARZ, New York

CHARLES PASHAYAN, JR., California ROBERT GARCIA, New York

FRANK HORTON, New York MICKEY LELAND, Texas

JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana GUS YATRON, Pennsylvania

DON YOUNG, Alaska MARY ROSE OAKAR, Ohio

JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah
GERRY SIKORSKI, Minnesota

DAN BURTON, Indiana
FRANK MCCLOSKEY, Indiana
GARY L. ACKERMAN, New York
MERVYN M. DYMALLY, California
RON DE LUGO, Virgin Islands
MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona

Tom DEYULIA, Staff Director

ROBERT E. LOCKHART, General Counsel
PATRICIA F. RISSLER, Deputy Staff Director and Chief Clerk

JOSEPH A. FISHER, Minority Staff Director

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APRIL 2, 1985 Statement of:

Kenneth Shapiro, president, Hay Huggins Co., Inc., accompanied by Mr.

Edwin Hustead, senior vice president, Hay Huggins Co., Inc., and Mr.
Gregori Lebedev, director of governmental consulting services, Hay

Associates..
Donald J. Devine, director-designate, Office of Personnel Management.
Charles A. Bowsher, Comptroller General of the U.S., General Account-
ing Office, accompanied by Bob Shelton, and William J. Anderson

APRIL 3, 1985
Frank P. Cipolla, Director, Personnel Management, Office of Civilian

Personnel Policy and Requirements, Department of Defense; Philip S.
Chen, Jr., Associate Director for Intramural Affairs, National Institutes
of Health; William J. Riley, Jr., Director of Personnel, Department of
Agriculture; Carl E. Grant, Director, Personnel Programs Division, Na-
tional Aeronautics and Space Administration; Gerald F. Meyer, Associ-
ate Commissioner for Management and Operations, Food and Drug
Administration; and Paul T. Weiss, Director, Office of Personnel, De-
partment of the Treasury

Philip S. Chen, Jr.
William J. Riley, Jr.....
Carl E. Grant...
Gerald F. Meyer..

Paul T. Weiss.....
John McManaman, assistant deputy comptroller, New York State Em-

ployees Retirement System; Richard Beers, director, Michigan Bureau
of Retirement Systems, department of management and budget; and
Bennett Shaver, executive director, Maryland State Retirement and
Pension System.

Richard Beers.

Bennett Shaver
Lud Andolsek, president, National Association of Retired Federal Em-

ployees, accompanied by Judith E. Park, legislative director, and Tom
Trabucco, associate legislative director.

APRIL 23, 1985
Moe Biller, president, American Postal Workers Union, AFL-CIO; George

B. Gould, legislative and political assistant to the president, National
Association of Letter Carriers, AFL-CIO; and Tom W. Griffith, presi-
dent, National Rural Letter Carriers' Association

Moe Biller
Tom W. Griffith.

George B. Gould..
Kenneth T. Blaylock, national president, American Federation of Govern-

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