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We certify that the Report of the Discussion which took place in the Roman Catholic College of Downside, near Bath, on the 25th 26th & 27th of February, and the 5th 6th, googth of March 1834, as published by J. G. & F. Rivington, St Paul's Church Yard, 8Booker, Bond Street, is alone authentic, each proof sheet having received our Signatures.
February 5th, 1836.
I . F. Johnson | Short hand writer on the
Short-hand writer on the
R. Merrett, Roman Catholic side.
On the 25th, 26th, and 27th of February, and the 5th, 6th,
"THE RULE OF FAITH,"
"THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS."
REV. EDWARD TOTTENHAM, A.M., Missionary of the British Reformation Society, (now Minister of Kensington Chapel, Bath.)
REV. JOHN LYONS, A.M., Minister of All Saints Church, Liverpool.
ROMAN CATHOLIC SPEAKERS:
REV. T. J. BROWN, Professor of Theology in Downside College.
REV. T. M. MACDONNELL, Roman Catholic Missionary at St. Peter's Chapel,
REV. FRANCIS EDGEWORTH, Roman Catholic Missionary at Bristol.
J. G. AND F. RIVINGTON, ST. PAUL'S CHURCH YARD,
AND WATERLOO PLACE,
J. BOOKER, NEW BOND STREET.
DISCUSSION AT DOWNSIDE.
FIRST DAY.-Wednesday, Feb. 26, 1834.
THE RULE OF FAITH.
EDWIN T. CAULFEILD, Esq. of Bath, on taking the Chair, said, Ladies and Gentlemen, I have but few or rather no preliminary observations to make, in consequence of a paper which has been put into my hands. Usually the office which I am called upon to undertake, devolves on those whose services and ability do honour to the office; on the present occasion I feel it is an office that confers honour on the individual who holds it. If I obtain your approbation, support, and indulgence, I have no doubt I shall be enabled to perform the office to your satisfaction and my own. I will now read the paper written by Mr. Brown and agreed to by Mr. Tottenham : it is to this effect.
"At the Old Down Inn, on the 10th of January, 1834, a meeting of the Reformation Society was held, at which the Roman Catholic doctrine of Purgatory was, by public announcement, to be compared with Scripture, intimation having been given, that any Roman Catholic Priest, pledging himself to abide by the rules which would be read to the Meeting, should be heard in defence.
"Towards the close of the Meeting, a friend of the Rev. Mr. Brown, of Downside College, declared that Mr. Brown was willing to discuss, upon certain conditions, any of the points of controversy between Roman Catholics and Protestants, stating, however, that he had not been authorised to make this declaration by Mr. Brown, but that he could answer for his approbation.
"In consequence, two interviews took place between the principals, in the presence of their friends, at the latter of which Mr. Brown declared his readiness to accept the general invitation.
Accordingly a PUBLIC DISCUSSION was agreed to upon the following conditions:
"1st. That the audience shall be admitted by tickets, to be disposed of equally by each party.
"2nd. That no public indication of approbation or disapprobation be given by any one present.
3rd. That the discussion commence each day at 11 A. M. and that no speaker address the Meeting for more than three quarters of an hour at one time.
"N. B. To this rule it was afterwards added, by mutual agreement, that the opening speaker on each subject might be allowed to take a full hour if he pleased.
4th. That the Meeting close on each day, after both sides shall have had an opportunity of addressing the Meeting three times.
"5th. That one subject only be discussed on each side. "6th. That the subjects of discussion be, the "RULE of FAITH," and the "SACRIFICE of the MASS :"-The Rule of Faith to be discussed first, and the discussion to be opened by the REV. MR. TOTTENHAM-the discussion on the Sacrifice of the Mass to be opened by the REV. MR. BROWN."
"Jan. 14, 1834."
It is now my duty to call on the Rev. E. Tottenham. THE REV. E. TOTTENHAM.
Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen,-There is a saying of the Apostle Peter, which I desire to place in the forefront of the proceedings of this discussion; and it is this "Be ready to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you, with meekness and with fear." 1 Peter iii. 15. And whilst I hold, Sir, controversy to be, at certain times and seasons, a Christian duty, I trust I may ever maintain that that duty ought to be conducted "in meekness and in fear;" and I pray God that the proceedings, which may take place within these walls for several days, may be carried on in the spirit of kindness and of mutual charity.
For myself, Sir, I hope I may say that I do not enter upon this discussion trusting in my own sufficiency, but in the strength of that God who has promised to be with his