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peared to object in this instance. It was a some men would rather abstain from fuct, that the very clergyman of the parish public worship entirely than contaminate was a most strenuous advocate for the mea- themselves by entering the church of a sure; and many who last year had discoun- minister whom they disliked.- This was tenanced it, had since given it their appro- very capricious perhaps; but how absurd bation. The parish contains 50,000 souls; was the remedy here recommended! No it has only one parish church, and four more churches were to be built, because chapels ; the Presbytery, and all who had there were some which people do not choose really an interest in the matter, had testifi. to enter. He professed that he did not ed their sense of the expediency and neces- like this treating Christian men like cattle sity of an addition being made to that num- - this driving them into shambles, merely ber; and who were those who have ap- because they are empty.-(Hear, hear.)peared to oppose it? Two or three, or four He would rather take advantage of the leading members of other chapels out of the follies of men-to attach them to the parish. What they said, or meant to say, Church, than by unreasonably crossing was, “our seats will not let so well after them, drive them into secession. He had another chapel has been erected; our sti. often been surprised at the policy purpends must of necessity fall off, and, in sued by this House in applications of this short, we want a monopoly of Gaelic preach- nature. It was the policy of all associa. ing in the city of Glasgow.” What they tions, moral, political, or religious, of all had always laboured to impress upon the wise men, in short, to gain as many conminds of the petitioners was this, “our verts to their cause as possible. But here, churches are empty, and since we and the when a body apply to be connected with other original proprietors attend so very ill the Church by the most durable ties, prayourselves, cannot you walk in and occupying for leave to be subjected to its authoour places ?” Was ever there heard so mon- rity and discipline, they are treated with a strous and unreasonable a proposition ? harshness of tone and supercilious disdain There must be some reason for the empty as if they were suing the generosity of the condition of those churches, and a very good House for some mighty and unreasonable reason might be assigned. But supposing favour. He had even heard it said within the petitioners were agreed to supply the these walls, that the people applying for lack of zeal in the present congregations of leave to erect a Chapel of Ease were half those chapels, still 1345 of their number (a dissenters in their hearts, than which there good congregation of itself) would remain could not be a more cruel insult upon the unprovided for. There was this other cir. people of Scotland, whose attachment to cumstance, that the northern Gaelic was used their national Church was passionate and in those chapels, while the petitioners were prevalent. He concluded by most eloconversant only with the western Gaelic. It quently calling upon the House to comply might be said that it would be a very ab. with the prayer of these poor people, his surd thing to provide separate churches for clients, who, from a devotion to the inteall the dialects spoken in Scotland ; and rests of the Church, had built a chapel out that it would be unreasonable to prefer the of their slender means, in the hope of no broad Scotch of Edinburgh to the more other earthly reward than the approbation classical dialect of Glasgow.-(A laugh.) of the Assembly ; who had undergone all But sometimes a difference of dialect the fatiguing preparatives to obtaining that amounted to a difference of tongue; as, for approbation, and who kept their zeal for example, the Yorkshire and Somersetshire the establishment alive in the midst of all differ so widely, that a native of the one sorts of difficulties and discouragements. county could not make use of, or even un. Mr. P. Robertson, for the Managers of derstand the language spoken in the other, the other Gaelic Chapels, denied the acAnd the fact was, that it was found ex- curacy of the statements which had been tremely difficult to teach 3 west Highlander made with regard to the Highland popu. in northern Gaelic. He was aware there lation of Glasgow. There was no evi. were many sensible men (he always except. dence of the number of that population ed the present company) who had the mis before the Assembly. In regard to the enfortune to preach to empty benches.—(Great quiry of the Presbytery of Glasgow into the laughter.) There were many respectable genuineness of the signatures to the peti. clergymen who found themselves deserted tion, he contended that they had been very by their people, while other churches were easily satisfied on this point. There were crowded ; and who might keep open the already three Gaelic Chapels of Ease in door from one year to another before an- Glasgow, and there existed no necessity for other hive would swarm into it. There a fourth. These chapels could accommowas no preventing of this people would date 3413 persons. Last year there were form their own opinions of ministers, and 963 seats unoccupied ; and this year there

seats.

were 1381 seats unlet. So that within had become bound for their stipend would
700 of the whole number of the petitioners have it to pay out of their own pockets
cou'd be accommodated in the chapels al. as, he was informed, had in one instance
ready erected ; and if they deducted from already been the case, where, but for the
the gross number 752 servant girls, who generosity of one individual, the pastor
might sit in other churches with their mas- would have been without a stipend. He
ters, they would find that there was no concluded by stating his conviction that the
want of church accommodation for the erection of this chapel would be the virtual
Highland population of Glasgow. There suppression of one or other of those already
were debts on these chapels amounting to in existence.
L.2000; and the managers were bound Mr. Cockburn, in reply, said it had
besides to pay salaries to their ministers. been admitted on the other side, that the
Their only means of doing so was from sittings in the Gaelic chapels were only suf.
the revenue arising from the letting of the ficient for about 3000 people; and no man

The Assembly were bound to pro- acquainted with Glasgow would say that tect them in the constitution which they that was accommodation for one-half of the had granted. The consequence of their Gaelic population of that city. He begged sanctioning the erection of another chapel the Assembly to observe, wiat the petition would be the ruin of some of those already before them was a new one with new sig. in existence. There were, he contended, natures; and after these had been scrutin. not too few, but too many Gaelic chapelsized by the Presbytery, only thirty had in Glasgow; and the plain fact was, if they been found objectionable. The debt on the established another solely to gratify the Duke Street chapel seemed the sole ground petitioners, the result would be the ruin of objection to his clients' petition. That of his clients. The necessity of erecting debt amounted to L.850, and a happy chathis chapel had been urged on account of pel it was that it had no more. The inthe differences of dialect which existed

terest upon this debt corresponded to L.34 among the Highlanders. This appeared annually. Few concerns of the kind had to him to be a most extraordinary reason. so small a debt. The Gorbals chapel had The Assembly would not surely grant withdrawn their opposition. The Ingram the erection of this chapel for the simple Street chapel had only eighty-four vacant reason of gratifying the petitioners with the sittings, and no debt whatever. The only soft tones of the west, in place of the more debt, then, was that of Duke Street, which rugged tones of the north. It was a fact of amounted to only L. 34 of interest. If the general notoriety, that many of the parishes Assembly wished to see this debt paid off, in the west Highlands were supplied by let them erect the new chapel. All the ministers from the north. There were also others were now dosing under the security many Gaelic ministers who had acquired of the old monopolists. Only let this one the language from study; and although be erected, and if it did not infuse a new they had their dialects neither from the soul into the others he should be much surnorth por the west, were yet emphatic prised. preachers. He insisted that ihere was not Dr. Gibb of Glasgow stated, that the a Highland population in Glasgow suffi- Presbytery had recommended the erection cient to fill another Gaelic chapel; and if of this new chapel, because it was their the Assembly agreed to the erection of a conviction that another place of worship new one, it must issue either in its fall, or was necessary. He defended the scrutiny on the ruin of one or other of those already made by the Presbytery into the signatures established. It would be far better for the of the petitioners ; it had been conducted petitioners to prevent the erection of this with the greatest pains and anxiety, and chapel ; since, in the course of time, some had been only found inaccurate in a very less popular preacher than the one they had few instances. He was himself at the time now in view might reduce them to the same convinced that another chapel would be usecircumstances in which his clients were now ful, and was still under the same convic. placed. They were urged to this measure tion. from the fear of the petitioners going over Mr. Thomson of Dundee said the As. to the Secession; but they were bound to sembly ought to dismiss every allegation protect his clients in the constitution which which was not substantiated by the papers they had given them, and the more partie on its table. The Presbytery of Glasgow cularly, as the number of seats unlet had had been unanimous in recommending the increased from 963 to 1381. Were they erection of another Chapel of Ease there, to erect this new chapel, it was possible that and he had never seen a case more comin time some of the others might have a pas- pletely investigated. He moved that they tor with 10 flock; and the individuals who should grant the prayer of the petition, and

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remit it to a committee to draw up regu. had found accommodation, in the other cha. Jalions for the government of the chapel, pels, for 1300, and were disputing how the according to the rules of the Church. fractional difference could be disposed of.

Dr. Inglis observed, that the general It was seldom they would witness so good principle by which the Assembly was guide a forthcoming population ; and should they ed in such cases as the present, was to grant refuse to gratify them, they could anticipate the erection of chapels of ease whenever the nothing but their loss to the establishment; necessity for them was fully made out, and and what was more melancholy still, a great to refuse them where this necessity was not body, who might be kept together by their shown; but they would not agree to such common attachment, were in danger of fall. 'a measure to gratify the caprice of indivi. ing away from Sabbath observances altoge. duals, and denied that the necessity was ther. made out in this case.' He felt it necessa- Dr. Mearns spoke against the petition. ry to move that the prayer of the petition He would refuse it on the ground that there be refused; at same time, if it should be was sufficient accommodation for the petimade to appear that a chapel of an ordina- tioners in the other churches. If an appliry kind was wanted, he would cordially a. cation had been made for an additional gree to its erection.

English chapel, he would agree to it. Mr. M.Leod was also of opinion that a Dr. Cook was also for refusing the peticase was not made out for the pétitioners. tion, because the necessity was not proved.

Mr. Macfarlane of Polmont observed, Mr. Moncreiff, advocate, defended, at that if there was no disposition to refuse some length, and with singular ability, the chapels where necessary, he thought there claims of the petitioners. He thought a never was a case more clearly made out case of imperious necessity was made out, than the present, and the Assembly would and they should not hesitate one instant in not certainly refuse it. He cordially sé. granting the prayer of the petition. conded the motion of Mr. Thomson.

Mr. M•Neil, advocate, was of the same Dr. Nicol said, no other circumstances opinion. but necessity could justify these anomalous Dr. Gibb begged to remind the Assemestablishments; and, in the present case, bly that this petition was laid before them he did not think that necessity appeared. last year ; they had remitted it to the Pres.

Mr. R. Thomson, advocate, spoke at bytery to make certain inquiries, with the considerable length in favour of the peti- understanding that, if they gave a favourtion.

able report, the prayer would be granted. Mr. Eisdale of Perth said, the Assem. He therefore considered the Assembly bly must be aware that the chapel in Melpledged on this subject. ville Street was already built ; and if they Dr. Nicol denied that any pledge was refused to sanction it, the petitioners must implied in the proceedings of last year. either sell it to the dissenters, or become Mr. Wigham supported the petition. dissenters themselves.

The question was then put to the vote Dr. Chalmers said, he would not enter Grant or Refuse when there appeared for into many of the fine and finical distinc. Grant tions he had heard urged on this subject.

Refuse

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-28 in intellectual tactics. It was bad policy The Assembly then proceeded to the to extend the line of defence too far. By consideration of the petition and appeal of so doing they only weakened it, and added the Hon. Mrs. Hamilton of Bargany, and to its vulnerable points. He was for the her presentee, against the sentence of the friends of the chapel keeping within their Presbytery of Stranraer, sustaining a preimpregnable fortress, and not trusting to senlation by Sir H. Dalrymple, in favour the trifling defence of outposts. He offer- of Mr. Thomas Hill, to the church and ed to give up every argument but one, parish of Ballantrae. which was the true basis of their plea, that Mr. Robertson appeared for Mrs. Ha. if they erected the new chapel to-morrow, milton, and shortly contended, that, as the there would still be a great overplus of question of civil right between that lady Highland population unprovided for. He and Sir H. H. Dalrymple was at present was not furnished with any positive enu. before the House of Lords, the Assembly meration, but he could affirm, that within ought to delay proceedings till it was setthe limits of Glasgow there were numbers tled. of Highland families who had no place of Mr. Tawse, for Mrs. Hamilton's presitting in either church or chapel. There sentce, simply stated, that the rights of his was, therefore, no want of material for client were bound up in those of the patron crowding this and all the other chapels of who gave the presentation, and must stand Glasgow. Of these 2000 petitioners they or fall by them.

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Mr. Jeffrey, for Sir H. H. Dalrymple, On the motion of Dr. Nicol, the overand Mr. Hill, the presentee, went rather tures relative to the state of education in more into detail, and maintained that the the West Indies were referred to the com. Presbytery had done its duty ;-it having mittee on the Canada petition. only sustained a presentation from a patron The report of the collector of the wi. who had previously given six different presen. dows fund was made by Sir Henry Montations unchallenged, one of them to the creiff. The business, he said, just went very church in question.

on as formerly. Notwithstanding certain Dr. Nicol moved that the sentence be unfavourable circumstances, the funds conaffirmed, the presentee being aware that no tinued the same, and the annuities the same. judgınent of the Assembly could invest The thanks of the Assembly were voted him with civil right.-Agreed to.

to Sir Henry Moncreiff for the persevering The petition and appeal by the Rev. Mr. zeal, fidelity, and tenderness, with which M.Gregor Stirling, minister of Port, and he continued to discharge the duties of col. Robert Blair, one of his elders, against the lector; the moderator remarking, that he sentence of the Synod of Perth and Stir. would not think the less of this mark of ling, was then taken into consideration. respect, that he got it annually,

Mr. Jeffrey, on the part of the appel- The Assembly then proceeded to the lants, gave a brief statement of some cir- consideration of the petition and the appeal cumstances which had taken place subse. of the Rev. Thomas Turnbull, miuister quent to the judgment of the Synod, where- of Anwoth, appellant, against a sentence by it appeared that an arrangement had of the Synod of Galloway, affirming the been entered into, by which Mr. Stirling judgment of the Presbytery of Kirkcudwas to demit his office into the hands of an bright, sustaining the protest and complaint assistant and successor. The learned gen- of M. and D. Brown, against the finding tleman concluded with praying for a rever- of the Kirk Session of Anwoth. sal of the sentence of deposition. To this Mr. Turnbull appeared for himself ; the Assembly agreed.

Mr. Wilson, Stranraer, appeared for the The overture from the Synod of Aber- Synod of Galloway; and Mr. M'Lellan deen, on the funds of the Church, was, on of Kelton, and Mr. Gillespie of Kells, apthe motion of Mr. Farquharson, sent to a peared for the Presbytery of Kirkcudbright. Committee.

After some discussion, a motion was The petition from the Presbytery of made and unanimously agreed to. It deDeer, arising out of some correspondence clared that the carting of hay, like every with the procurator relative to the manse other worldly employment on the Sabbath, of Aberdour, in Aberdeenshire, was unani. if unnecessary, was a violation of the Lord's mously dismissed.

day ; that in the particular circumstances The Assembly then adjourned. of the case, it appeared there was some rea

Saturday, May 29.–The Moderator son to suppose that the arrival of the cattle intimated that he had received a letter from was unexpected ; that no sentence of cen, Sir John Sinclair, along with a Prospectus sure ought to be pronounced ; and that the of an Analysis of the Statistical Account Assembly highly approve of the conduct of of Scotland. This letter stated that consi. the Kirk Session watching over the interderable progress had been made in the ests of religion. completion of the work, and it was proba. The Assembly then took up the referble it would be published in the course of ence from the Presbytery of Skye, relative

to the refusal or improper delay on the Dr. Inglis stated, that Sir John Sinclair part of the minister to baptize children had made a present of the copy-right of particularly the child of Alexander Campthe Statistical Account of Scotland to the bell. Society for the benefit of the sons of the Reverend James Souter, one of the clergy; and it had lately been proposed by members of Assembly for the Presbytery that society to publish an abridgment of that of Skye, narrated at some length the facts work, brought down to the present time of the complaint.

The Commission of the General Assem. The Assembly unanimously came to the bly was then appointed, Sir Henry Mon.. resolution to order Mr. M‘Leod to baptize creiff to act for the moderator.

Alexander Campbell's child, and to direct Dr. Brunton reported from the commit. the Presbytery to see that the ordinance of tee on church accommodation.

baptism be duly performed in the parish of Mr. James Moncreiff, advocate, read Bracadale. and gave in reasons of dissent from the The Assembly next proceeded to hear judgment of the Assembly in the case of the petition and appeal of James Rankin, Principal Macfarlane. Ordered to be kept shoemaker in Paisley, who had been laid in retentis.

under the sentence of the lesser excommu.

the year.

nication by the Kirk-session of the Low The report of the committee on prison Kirk of Paisley, which sentence had been discipline and burgh schools was approved, affirmed by the Presbytery of Paisley, and and the committee re-appointed. subsequently in part by the Synod of On receiving the report of the committee Glasgow and Ayr.

on small livings, the House recorded its The Assembly, after hearing Duncan gratitude for the regard and affection which M.Neil, Esq. advocate, for the appellant, it appeared that his Majesty's Govern. Dr. M.Gill for the Synod, and Mr. Jon- ment had recently extended towards the athan Ranken for the Presbytery, sustain. Church. ed the appeal, and reversed the sentence of Dr. Singers reported from the Commit. the Kirk Session, and also ordained the re- tee appointed on the Presbyterial reports cord of the proceedings before the Low on schools. On the report from the PresKirk Session to be expunged.

bytery of Lanark, a member of that PresThe Assembly then adjourned.

bytery was fully heard. He detailed the Monday, May 31.-Mr. Eisdale com- controversy with Mr. Owen, arising out of plained of the manner in which, not only the refusal to allow the Presbytery to visit his own speech, but those of other mem the Lanark schools. The Assembly apbers, in the debate of Thursday last, had proved of the conduct of the members of been reported in the Edinburgh newspapers. the Presbytery, and appoint a Committee

Some routine business having been dis- to confer with his Majesty's counsel on the patched, the Assembly received the procu- steps proper to be taken with respect to the rator's account of the Church's funds, Manager of the Lanark schools. which he regretted to state were not in the On the petition respecting Mr. Muir, most favourable condition. The Church the Assembly waved the consideration of had accumulated a debt of L.1183 sterling, the sentence of the Synod of Dumfries, and had not been able to grant aid in a and reverse the sentence of the Presbytery single case in which it had been requested of Langholm ; inasmuch as Mr, Muir was during the last year. He saw no chance neither a licentiate nor a probationer of this of the Church getting out of its embarrass. Church during the period that he foling situation, unless all the presbyteries lowed divisive courses, the Assembly find, would come forward in a more equal and that no alien certificate as to his steadiness liberal manner.

during that period is competent, but perSeveral petitions for aid were disposed of. mit the Presbytery to take Mr. Muir on

On the motion of Dr. Brunton, Bailie his trials, after he has passed six years in Waugh was appointed printer to the religious and exemplary conduct, and in Church, in place of Mr. Peter Hill, re. uniform and steady adherence to the faith signed.

of this Church, agreeably to the Act of the The Committee on the means of extend- General Assembly 1806. ing religion in Canada, to whom a petition The Commission was appointed to meet on the means of extending religion in the to-morrow at 12; and the Committee on West Indies had been referred, reported the Royal Bounty to meet on Wednes. that they did not think it prudent to take day, at the same hour. any notice of this overture at the present A Committee was appointed to revise time; of which report the Assembly ap- the minute-book, and the minutes of this proved.

sederunt were then read. The report of the committee on addition- The Moderator having delivered a short al churches was received and approved; the address, the Assembly was dissolved in the committee re-appointed ; and the thanks of usual way, and the next General Assembly the House conferred on Dr. Inglis, the appointed to meet on the 19th May, convener.

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