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COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE

WARREN G. MAGNUSON, Washington, Chairman JOHN O. PASTORE, Rhode Island

NORRIS COTTON, New Hampshire A. S. MIKE MONRONEY, Oklahoma

THRUSTON B. MORTON, Kentucky FRANK J. LAUSCHE, Ohio

HUGH SCOTT, Pennsylvania E. L. BARTLETT, Alaska

WINSTON L. PROUTY, Vermont VANCE HARTKE, Indiana

JAMES B. PEARSON, Kansas
PHILIP A. HART, Michigan

ROBERT P. GRIFFIN, Michigan
HOWARD W. CANNON, Nevada
DANIEL B. BREWSTER, Maryland
RUSSELL B. LONG, Louisiana
FRANK E. MOSS, Utah
ERNEST F. HOLLINGS, South Carolina

FREDERICK J. LORDAN, Staf Director.
JAMES J. BARRY, A8sistant Stai Director

MICHAEL PERTSCHUK, General Counsel
RALPH W. HORTON, Assistant General Counsel

DONALD W. BRODIE, Stal Counsel

COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC WORKS

JENNINGS RANDOLPH, West Virginia, Chairman STEPHEN M, YOUNG, Ohio

JOHN SHERMAN COOPER, Kentucky EDMUND S, MUSKIE, Maine

HIRAM L. FONG, Hawaii
ERNEST GRUENING, Alaska

J. CALEB BOGGS, Delaware
B. EVERETT JORDAN, North Carolina GEORGE MURPHY, California
DANIEL K. INOUYE, Hawaii

LEN B. JORDAN, Idaho
BIRCH BAYH, Indiana

HOWARD H. BAKER, JR., Tennessee
JOSEPH M. MONTOYA, New Mexico
JOSEPH D. TYDINGS, Maryland
WILLIAM B. SPONG, JR., Virginia

RICHARD B. ROYCE, Chief Clerk and Staff Director
BAILEY GUARD, Assistant Chief Clerk (Minority)

RICHARD E. GERRISH, Minority Clerk
JOSEPH F. VAN VLADRICKEN, LEON G. BILLINGS, J. B. HUYETT, JR., M. BARRY MEYER,

and RICHARD D. GRUNDY, Professional Staff Members

SUBCOMMITTEE ON AIR AND WATER POLLUTION

EDMUND S. MUSKIE, Maine, Chairman JENNINGS RANDOLPH, West Virginia J. CALEB BOGGS, Delaware BIRCH BAYH, Indiana

GEORGE MURPHY, California JOSEPH D. TYDINGS, Maryland

JOHN SHERMAN COOPER, Kentucky
DANIEL K, INOUYE, Hawaii

HOWARD H. BAKER, JR., Tennessee
JOSEPH M. MONTOYA, New Mexico
WILLIAM B. SPONG, JR., Virginia

CONTENTS

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HEARING DATES

March 14, 1967, Washington, D.C.

March 15, 1967, Washington, D.C.

March 16, 1967, Washington, D.C.

March 17, 1967, Washington, D.C.

April 10, 1967, Washington, D.C.----

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

WASHIngton, D.C., MARCH 14, 1967

Hon. Alan S. Boyd, Secretary, Department of Transportation, accompanied

by William J. Driscoll, Office of General Counsel..

Dean W. Coston, Deputy Under Secretary, Department of Health, Educa-

tion, and Welfare, accompanied by Dr. John Middleton, Director,

National Center for Air Pollution Control; Arthur Stern, Assistant

Director, National Center for Air Pollution Control; and John T.

Grupenhoff, Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary for Legisla-

tion, HEW..-----

WASHINGTON, D.C., March 15, 1967

Alex Radin, general manager, accompanied by Lawrence Hobart, assistant

general manager, American Public Power Association, Washington,

D.C.----------------------------------------------------------

Hon. Brock Adams, a Representative in Congress from the State of

W ashington.----------------------------------------------------
J. A. McIinay, vice president, accompanied by Dr. D. T. Ferrell, Jr., and

Mr. J. F. Norberg, Electric Storage Battery Co., Philadelphia, Pa..---

Paul Hafer, president, Battronic Truck Corp., Boyertown, Pa ---------

Horace Heyman, Overseas Services, Ltd., Whickham, Newcastle - Upon-

Tyne, England..

Robert 'A. Charpie, president, Electronic Division, Union Carbide Corp.,

New York, N.Y.----

Andy Leparulo, assistant vice president, Yardney Electric Corp., New

York, N.Y.----

William Alden, president, Alden Self-Transit Systems Corp., Westboro,

Mass....

Washington, D.C., March 16, 1967

Michael Ference, Jr., vice president, scientific research, Ford Motor Co.,

Dearborn, Mich..

Hon. Claiborne Pell, a U.S. Senator from the State of Rhode Island

Hon. Richard L. Ottinger, a Representative in Congress from the State of

New York.

Harry F. Barr, vice president, engineering, General Motors Corp., Detroit,

William Bogan, vice president in charge of engineering, Chrysler Corp.,

Washington, D.C.-----

Dr. Frederick de Hoffmann, vice president, General Dynamics, and presi-

dent, General Atomic Division, San Diego, Calif..--

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Stewart M. Chodosh, battery manager, Leesona Moos Laboratories Divi-

sion, Leesona Corp., Great Neck, N.Y., accompanied by Kenneth I.

Rapp, assistant general manager, Leesona Moos Laboratories Division..

Dr. Clare P. Stanford, vice president and director, Research Division,

Allis-Chalmers Manufacturing Co., Milwaukee, Wis... ---------

WASHINGTON, D.C., MARCH 17, 1967

Hon. Stewart Udall, Secretary, Department of the Interior, accompanied

by Dr. Walter Hibbard, Director, Bureau of Mines....
Robert Dunlop, chairman, board of directors, American Petroleum Insti-

tute, Washington, D.C.------

Dr. Manfred Altman, director, Institute for Direct Energy Conversion,

University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pa...

Charles Avila, president, Boston Edison Co., and chairman. Edison

Electric Institute Research Division Executive Committee, New York,

N.Y.----

W. E. Sturm, vice president, general services, West Penn Power Co.,

Greensburg, Pa.---.

WASHINGTON, D.C., APRIL 10, 1967

Lee, C. White, Chairman, Federal Power Commission...---

J. Herbert Hollomon, Acting Under Secretary, Department of Commerce,

accompanied by Paul T. O'Day, Office of the Secretary, Department of

Commerce, and Mr. Robert B. Ellert, Office of the General Counsel,

Department of Commerce---------

Charles M. Haar, Assistant Secretary for Metropolitan Development, De-

partment of Housing and Urban Development --

Marshall D. Aiken, electrical engineer, Headquarters, U.S. Army Materiel

Command, Department of Defense, accompanied by Dr. G. Frysinger,

Chief, Power Sources Division, AMC-ECOM, Fort Monmouth, N.J.;

T. Kirkland, Chief, Electrotechnology Department, AMC-ERDL, Fort

Belvoir, Va., and R. E. Hopkins, Chief, Power Technology Lab, AMC-

ERDL. Fort Belvoir, Va...

George W. Jernstedt, general manager, Transportation and Industrial

Equipment Divisions, Westinghouse Electric Corp., Pittsburgh, Pa--.

STATEMENTS

Adams, Hon. Brock, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Washington.---------------------------------------------------

Aiken, Marshall D., electrical engineer, Headquarters, U.S. Army Materiel

Command, Department of Defense, accompanied by Dr. G. Frysinger,

chief, Power Sources Division, AMC-ECOM, Fort Monmouth, N.J.;

T. Kirkland, chief, Electrotechnology Department, AMC-ERDL, Fort

Belvoir, Va., and R. E. Hopkins, chief, Power Technology Laboratory,

AMC-ERDL, Fort Belvoir, Va.------

Alden, William L., president, Alden Self-Transit Corp..
Altman, Dr. Manfred, director, Institute for Direct Energy Conversion,

University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pa...
Alvin, Joseph J., Joe Alvin & Co., Los Angeles, Calif.: Letter dated Febru-

ary 10, 1967.-
Aronson, Robert R., president, Electric Fuel Propulsion, Inc.--
Avila, Charles, president, Boston Edison Co., and chairman, Edison Elec-

tric Institute Research Division Executive Committee, New York, N.Y.
Ayres, Robert U., Hudson Institute, Inc., Croton-on-Hudson, N.Y.-----
Baron, Robert Alex, executive vice president, Citizens for a Quieter City,

Inc., New York, N.Y.----

Barr, Harry F., vice president, engineering, General Motors Corp., Detroit,

Mich-----------------------------------------------------------

Biemiller, Andrew J., director, Department of Legislation, American Fed-

eration of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations. -----

Bliss, L. G., president, Foote Mineral Co., Exton, Pa.: Letter dated April

4, 1967.

Bogan, B. W., vice president, engineering, Chrysler Corp., Detroit, Mich.

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Boyd, Alan S., Secretary, Department of Transportation..

Case, Hon. Clifford P., a U.S. Senator from the State of New Jersey:

Letter dated March 7, 1967..

Charpie, Robert A., president, Electronics Division, Union Carbide Corp.

Chodosh, Dr. Stewart M., battery manager, Leesona Moos Laboratories,

Division of Leesona Corp., Great Neck, N.Y.---

Cohen, Wilbur J., Under Secretary, Department of Health, Education, and

Welfare: Letter dated March 14, 1967. ------

Coston, Dean W., Deputy Under Secretary, Department of Health, Edu-

cation, and Welfare, accompanied by Dr. John Middleton, Director,

National Center for Air Pollution Control; Arthur Stern, Assistant Di-

rector, National Center for Air Pollution Control; and Dr. John T.

Grupenhoff, Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary for Legislation,

HEW.-

de Hoffmann, Dr. Frederick, vice president, General Dynamics Corp., and

president, General Atomic Division, San Diego, Calif.--

Dieckamp, H., chairman, Technical Committee on Electric Power Sys-

tems, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics.--

Dunlop, Robert G., chairman, board of directors, American Petroleum

Institute, Washington, D.C.---

Eisenberg, M., president, Electrochimica Corp., Menlo Park, Calif.:

Letter dated March 17, 1967-------

Ellis, Clyde T., general manager, National Rural Electric Cooperative

Association: Letter dated March 13, 1967-------

Ference, Michael, Jr., vice president, scientific research, Ford Motor Co..

Frain, George, Washington, D.C.: Letter dated March 13, 1967.

Grant, Eric P., executive officer, California Motor Vehicle Pollution Con-

trol Board: Letter dated March 22, 1967.--

Graves, Melvin, general manager, Alsat Industries, Detroit, Mich.: Letter

dated March 11, 1967--

Haar, Charles M., Assistant Secretary for Metropolitan Development,

Department of Housing and Urban Development ------

Hafer, Paul R., president, Battronic Truck Corp., Boyertown, Pa.-----

Haworth, Leland J., Director, National Science Foundation: Letter dated

March 13, 1967

Henderson, Mrs. Carter F., president, Citizens for Clean Air, Inc., New

Heyman, Horace, Overseas Services, Ltd., Whickham, Newcastle Upon

Tyne, England.-------------------------------------------------

Hinckley, John N., Delavan, Wis.----

Hoke, John, Washington, D.C.: Letter dated April 25, 1967-----

Hollomon, J. Herbert, Acting Under Secretary, Department of Commerce,

accompanied by Paul T. O'Day, Office of the Secretary; and Robert B.

Ellert, Office of the General Counsel. --------

Jernstedt, George W., general manager, Transportation & Industrial

Equipment Divisions, Westinghouse Electric Corp., Pittsburgh, Pa----

Knott, Lawson B., Jr., Administrator, General Services Administration:

Letter dated March 13, 1967..

Kreutzer, Arthur C., National LP-Gas Association, Chicago, Ill.: Letter

dated March 14, 1967-----

Leparulo, Andy, assistant vice president, Yardney Electric Corp., New

York, N.Y.---

Luce, Charles F., Under Secretary, Department of the Interior: Letter

dated March 10, 1967..

McCarthy, Hon. Richard D., a Representative in Congress from the State

of New York.--

McCombe, R. S., Chicken, Alaska: Letter dated March 11, 1967,-

McIlnay, J. A., vice president, Electric Storage Battery Co., accompanied

by Dr. D. T. Ferrell, Jr., and J. F. Norberg-----

Macy, John W., Jr., Chairman, U.S. Civil Service Commission: Letter
dated April 7, 1967.---

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Morgan, John S., Rialto, Calif.: Letter dated April 24, 1967.--

Norwood, Gus, Northwest Public Power Association, Vancouver, Wash..

Ottinger, Hon. Richard L., a Representative in Congress from the State of

New York.---

Packer, Dr. Leo S., Assistant Postmaster General, Bureau of Research

and Engineering, U.S. Post Office Department.-----

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Pell, Hon. Claiborne, a U.S. Senator from the State of Rhode Island. ----
Radin, Alex, general manager, American Public Power Association, ac-

companied by Lawrence Hobart, assistant general manager------

Resor, Stanley R., Secretary of the Army, Department of Defense: Letter

dated March 17, 1967------

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Rosen, Dr. Frank'L., chairman, Air Pollution Committee, Essex County,

N.J., Medical Society, Maplewood, N.J.: Letter dated February 14,

Scoggins, John D., president, Community of Swan Lake, Mira Loma, Calif.:

Letter dated April 4, 1967---

Sifton, Paul F.--

Simpson Robert S., Arlington, Va.: Letter dated April 7, 1967.----

Sloan, Arthur W.. chief executive officer, Atlantic Research Corp., Alexan-

dria, Va.: Letter dated March 30, 1967--------

Speno, Edward J., member of the New York State Senate.--

Stanford, Dr. Clare P., vice president and director, Research Division,

Allis-Chalmers Manufacturing Co., Milwaukee, Wis.--.

Sturm, William E., vice president, general services, West Penn Power Co.,

Cabin Hill, Greensburg, Pa.---

Thaler, Sheldon, Spring Valley, N.Y.: Letter dated March 15, 1967.-----

Udall, 'Hon. Stewart, Secretary, Department of the Interior, accompanied

by Dr. Walter Hibbard, Director, Bureau of Mines.--.

Weitzel, Frank H., Assistant Comptroller General of the United States:

Letter dated February 6, 1967.--

White, Lee C., Chairman, Federal Power Commission...
Williams, Charles J., secretary-treasurer, Williams Engine Co., Inc.,

Ambler, Pa.: Letter dated May 13, 1967.---.
Wouk, Dr. Victor general manager, Electronic Energy Conversion Corp.,
a subsidiary of Gulton Industries, Inc..---

ORGANIZATIONS AND DEPARTMENTS

Alden Self-Transit Corp.----

Allis-Chalmers Manufacturing Co., Milwaukee, Wis.------

Alsat Industries, Detroit, Mich...

American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organization

American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics..

American Petroleum Institute, Washington, D.C.-

American Public Power Association.--

Atlantic Research Corp., Alexandria, Va...

Battronic Truck Corp., Boyertown, Pa.--.

California Motor Vehicle Pollution Control Board

Chrysler Corp., Detroit, Mich -----

Citizens for a Quieter City, Inc., New York, N.Y

Citizens for Clean Air, Inc., New York, NY

Community of Swan Lake, Mira Loma, Calif.

Departments:

Civil Service Commission.-----

Commerce---

Comptroller General of the United States

Defense. -----

Federal Power Commission...

General Services Administration..

Health, Education, and Welfare...

Housing and Urban Development.

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