ceive from the Commonwealth of Virginia and the City of Newport News, and the unanimous support it has achieved in the scientific community. I hope this subcommittee and the full Science and Technology Committee will not waver in the fully justified, strong support that they have consistently given to CEBAF.

Mr. FUQUA. Thank you very much, Mr. Bateman. We appreciate your being here this morning and expressing your support for a very fine project.

Also, without objection, permission will be granted to take photographs and make recordings of the proceedings today.

Leading off our witnesses today for the Department of Energy is Dr. Alvin Trivelpiece, Director of the Office of Energy Research. He will discuss the Department's fiscal year 1987 budget request. Following the DOE witnesses, we will hear from Dr. Frank Stehli on two recent Energy Research Advisory Board reports and a panel of laboratory and university scientists on new facilities and research opportunities.

We will also have two panels of laboratory directors who will give us their assessment of the impacts of the fiscal year 1987 budget request on their respective institutions.

Dr. Trivelpiece, we are very delighted to have you here once again and would be pleased to hear from you at this time.

STATEMENT OF DR. ALVIN W. TRIVELPIECE, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF ENERGY RESEARCH, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, WASHINGTON, DC

Dr. TRIVELPIECE. Mr. Chairman, it is a pleasure to be here, as always, and to see you again this year.

A few days ago you heard in full committee from Secretary Herrington, and he outlined some of the general budgetary circumstances under which the Government is now trying to operate, and I won't repeat those here. You know the problems only too well. You have a collection of outside witnesses that you have identified who are going to testify on activities at the laboratories and accomplishments and so on. So I think I will forgo outlining all these accomplishments. I am sure that the lab directors are quite capable of bragging about their own programs and don't need my help in this matter.

The thing I did want to touch on is perhaps some of the smaller parts of the program and to do it by beginning with pointing out that last Monday night I had the good fortune to attend the Westinghouse Science Talent Search Winners' Awards Ceremony, and at that ceremony I met a young lady whom I met once before, Eureko Sado. She was the third place winner in that Westinghouse science talent search activity.

The reason I mention her is that the time I had the opportunity to meet her previously was out at the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, where she was one of the participants in the first DOE supercomputer honors program, where we had taken 52 students, 1 from each State, and 1 from Puerto Rico, and 1 from the District of Columbia, that had been selected as being the best student in science and physics, mathematics, and computer sciences, selected by the Governors in each case, to give them a 2-week opportunity for hands-on experience in the use of supercomputers.

Now, how did this activity get started? Well, Secretary Herrington earlier, in the last year, had asked me about what we could do with the laboratories in terms of increased activities that would be of benefit to students, and particularly was there anything we could do with high school students, and I gave some thoughts to that. So I had some ideas that might go in next year's budget, and I began to explain to him, and he said, "No, I mean now." I responded, "Well, yes, sir, we will see what we can do now," and so we proposed to carry out this activity involving these 52 students, and it worked very well.

I am pleased that something like that, which is a very small activity dollar-wise and even a small part of our program, can have such a profound influence on the course of how some of the students learn about supercomputers.

The Department is going to expand this activity this next summer, and the letters have gone out to the Governors inviting them now to nominate two students rather than one student. One group will go to the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory again for supercomputers; the second group will go to the Brookhaven National Laboratory to gain hands-on experience in the use of the synchrotron light source. So this is a small kind of an activity, but it is a very important one, and I want to point it out.

The other one that is fairly small is the Used Equipment Program. It may seem funny to talk about in a $1.3 billion budget something that involves giving away free equipment, but this equipment activity, as a result of computerizing it, has become very popular with the academic institutions throughout the United States, and the number of requests and the number of grants we have made has gone from 20 to around nearly 100, and the amount of used equipment that we are surveying off from the departmental facilities each year has now grown to about $1 million. The value of these far exceeds just the book value of the items that we are transferring off.

Another brief subject to mention before we turn to questions is that the Department of Energy comes in for a certain amount of dashing, as I would call it, in terms of technology transfer, that we aren't doing enough, we aren't doing it right, and we aren't contributing to getting things done in the right way.

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that to some extent the nuclear industry, nuclear radiation, nuclear medicine, and many other such things owe their existence to activities that can be found in earlier activities that were supported by the Department.

In addition, the current collection of activities that are in the Strategic Defense Initiative to some extent owe their existence to the basic research that has been done in high-energy physics, nuclear physics, and the fusion program, and basic energy sciences in other parts of the Department. So there is a lot of contemporary technology transfer. It doesn't happen perhaps in exactly the way that some people would like to see it occur, but it is certainly occurring and occurs, I think, in a fairly efficient and effective way. With those comments, Mr. Chairman, I know you have many questions, so we would like to proceed to those directly.

[The prepared statement of Dr. Trivelpiece follows:]

Statement of Alvin W. Trivelpiece

Director of Energy Research

Department of Energy

before the

Subcommittee on Energy Development and Applications

of the

House Science and Technology Committee

March 5, 1986

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee:

It is a pleasure to appear here today to present the FY 1987 budget request for several of the programs supported by the Office of Energy Research (ER). These programs are: High Energy and Nuclear Physics, Basic Energy Sciences, Energy Research Analysis, University Research Support, University Research Intrumentation, and Multiprogram Energy LaboratoriesFacilities Support. The High Energy and Nuclear Physics programs are under the General Science and Research appropriation. All of the other programs are under the Energy Supply R&D appropriation. The FY 1987 budget request for all ER programs is shown in Table 1.

At this point I would like to discuss each of the programs mentioned above in some detail.

High Energy and Nuclear Physics

The High Energy and Nuclear Physics programs seek the answers to questions that man has asked for many hundreds of years, namely, what are the basic constituents of matter and what forces govern them. While conducting this research, the High Energy and Nuclear Physics programs, over the years, have made significant contributions not only to energy resource development, but to education, health, industry and national defense. Contributions to the economic growth and prosperity of the Nation have come directly from the results of the research, from technological spinoffs and from the training of tomorrow's scientists through participation of university graduate students in