Q. What trade are you? A. A warehouseman. Q. Who do you live with? A. Messrs. Nichols and Roberts. Q. Who introduced you into this society? A. I was not introduced by any person, Q. How came you to go there? A. I went there the 12th of December, the night following the first riot. Q. Were there more riots than one? A. The mob met two days together. Q. I asked who introduced you to this society; you said, nobody. When did you go to it first? A. The 12th of December was the first time I went to Mr. Walker's. :: Q. When was the first time you went to the society?. A. The 20th of December. Q. Was you a member then? A. No, I did not become a member until the 31st of De cember. Q. You said, just now, you became a member on the 31st of January 1798? Mr. Serjeant Cockell. You have taken him down wrong, Mr. Johnson. What was your inducement to become a member of this Reformation Society? A. They wished a fair representation of the people in parliament. • Mr. Justice Heath. Don't let us enquire into that. Mr. Erskine. It is evidence for the defendants, and if the gentlemen choose to ask it, I have a right to the evidence. I A. On the 12th of December, as I was at work, I saw a great concourse of people met in the Market-place ; thought there would be a riot in the evening; I went out, went into the Church-yard, and went to Mr. Walker's house that night; and I saw such conduct in Mr. Walker and the people that were there, that it made me determine to enter among them. Mr. Johnson. You say you saw no exercising, but you did see arms? A. I never saw any fire-arms, but one musket. Q. Did you see no other fire-årms? A. Yes, six pieces of cannon. Q. Were they large enough to carry a pound ball? A. I cannot tell, I was never used to them. Q. Did you see any blunderbusses there? A. I do not recollect seeing any blunderbusses there. 2. Did you ever hear any books read there? A. I heard one book read. Q. What was it? A. They called it the Irish Address to the Scotch. A. Mr. Walker did. Q. Perhaps you cannot recollect any particular passage in it? A. No. Mr. Erskine. I dare say you recollect that is not evidence, therefore you ask it. Mr. Law. It confirms him as to the reading of books there. Mr. Justice Heath. There is no doubt, your witness was there. Mr. Johnson. You heard that read by Mr. Walker? Mr. Vaughan. They did not shoulder these swivels, did they? A. No, never. Mary Denham (sworn). Examined by Mr. Erskine. Q. How long have you lived as a servant with Mr. Walker? 4. For two years upon the 10th of March last. Q. Do you remember the attack made upon your master's house? A. Yes. Q. Was you in the house at that time? A. Yes. 2. Q. I suppose you was pretty much frightened? Q. Do you remember any cannon? A. Yes. Q. When were these cannon brought to town? Q. Where were they before ? A. In the country. Q. At Barlow-Hall, where Mr. Walker lives? A. Yes. Q. They are little things upon carriages? A. Yes. Q. They were brought into town the day after the riot? A. Yes. Q. Before Q. Before the time that these cannon came, do member seeing fire-arms in your master's house? A. No. you re Q. Was you admitted to all the parts of the warehouse, and the house-you went where you pleased, I suppose ?. A. Yes. Q. Did you ever see any men exercising with arms there? A. No. Q. Did you ever hear of any thing like it? A. No. Q. Did you ever see any arms there before the time of the riots? A. No. Q. If any such exercise of people with arms had taken place, must you not have known it? A. Yes. Q. Why should you have known it? A. They could not do it in the warehouse, or house, without my seeing or hearing it. 2. Did you ever either see any such thing done, or hear of its being done. A. No, never. Q. Can you take upon you to swear that it was not done? A. Yes. Q. After the riots, we understand these cannon, and some muskets, and other arms were brought for the purpose of defending the house? A. Yes. Q. What was done with them after the 12th of December? A. They went into the country again I believe. Q. What was it that went into the country again? A. The cannon. Q. What became of the blunderbusses, pistols, and muskets? A. I never saw any. Q. You never saw any after the riot, nor before? A. No. Q. You don't know where these cannon went to? Mary Denham. Cross-examined by Mr. James. Q. Were you a member of any of these Reformation So cieties? A. No. Q. How could you tell what was going forward at any of those meetings? you did not generally attend the warehouse. A. No. Q. Your business was in the house? A. Yes. Q. But how can you pretend to say what was done in the warehouse; they might have been in the warehouse for what you know? A. Not to exercise they could not; I must have seen them through the windows. Q. Have you been accustomed to see men exercise? Q. They did not always fire when they exercised? Q. Have you not seen them exercise, when they made very little noise? A. No, I do not know that I have. Q. Have you never seen them present, and rise, and kneel, and so on; you say there were no blunderbusses or muskets? A. I never saw any. Q. And if there was, you must have seen them, must you? A. Yes. Mr. Erskine. Is there not a double light through the warehouse? A. Yes. Q. If they had been exercising with fire-arms there, must you not have seen and heard them? A. Yes. Martha Wilkinson (sworn). Examined by Mr. Serjeant Cockell. Q. I understand you live in the service of Mr. Walker; you attend the Miss Walkers, as their maid? A. Yes. Q. How long have you lived in Mr. Walker's service? A. More than three years and a half. Q. Where was you at the time of the riot, the first night Mr. Walker's house was attacked? Q. How long did from Barlow? you continue after you had returned A. Till the beginning of May. Q. During that period you lived in his house at Manchester? A. I did. Q. Do you remember after your return from Barlow, whether any arms of any sort were sent for? A. No. Q. Do you remember the cannon? A. Yes. Q. You know Mr. Walker's warehouse? Q. Can you from any room in the house see into the ware house? A. Yes. Q. Is the warehouse so near to that part of the house, from whence you can see into the warehouse, that if any noise, for instance the clattering of ramrods, or any thing of that sort had happened, you could have heard them? A. Yes. Q. You have seen soldiers exercise at Manchester? Q. But if there had been any noise of that sort, you was near enough to have heard, and to have seen? A. Yes. Q. Did you ever hear or see at any time in your life, any men exercising in arms at Mr. Walker's? A. No, never. Q. If such a thing had happened when these weekly meetings were held, must you not at some time or other have heard it? A. Most certainly I must. Q. And you are prepared, safely and conscientiously to swear, that no such thing happened? A. I am. Q. Describe the situation of this window? A. There is but a narrow yard that parts the warehouse and the house, and the windows of the warehouse, and the windows of the room in which I was, were opposite. Q. Then if any thing of that sort had happened, you must have seen and heard it? |