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1820.) Proceedings in the present Session of Parliament. 547 May 10.
a clergyman named Jones, who com. Alderman Wood moved the appoint- plained, that the Bishop of Exeter, his ment of a Secret Committee to inquire Diocesan, had refused to countersigo his into the conduct of Edwards and bis as testimonials, by which he was deprived of suciates for the last two years.
two livings, to which he had been preThe motion gave rise to an animated sented in the Dioceses of Lincoln and Pedebate, and was supported by Mr. Hob. terborough. The cause of this refusal he kouse, Mr. Denman, and Sir Robert Wils alleged to be, that he had said, at a meet. son ; and opposed by Mr. Bankes, Mr. ing at Exeter, to petition agaiost Catholic Wynn, the Attorney-General, and Mr. Emancipation, that nine-tenths of the Canning. In the course of the debate clergymen of the Church of England did some warm expressions fell from the latter not believe in the Athanasian Creed. gentleman and Sir F. Burdett, who sup The Bishop of Exeter defended himself ported the motion ; but at the instance of on the score of his possessing a discretionSir R. Wilson, the House called upon ary power of withholding his countersign them to come to an explanation previous from any testimonial that he could not to parting, which they did in a manner conscientiously grant. satisfactory to the House. The motion The motion for a Select Committee to was pegatived without a division.
inquire into the allegations contained in
the petition was lost, on a division of 18 May 11.
to 35. Mr. Maberly, in moving for an account of the amount of Exchequer Bills, cen In the Commons, the same day, Mr. sured the recent large issues of this spe Hobhouse presented a Petition from cer. cies of paper money. The expectations tain inhabitants of Oldham. The Pebeld out by Mr. Vapsittart of attain titioners complained of a series of miliing an efficient sinking fund of 500,0001. tary outrages which had taken place at from bis new taxes had completely Oldham. Unfortunately, such was the failed. Our income last year was only state of society at Oldham, and the neigh53,388,2481. whilst the expenditure ex. bourhood, that the persons injured rather ceeded 63,000,0001. leaving a sinking fund. chose to apply to the Commanding Officer of not
than 395,0001. Though than to the Magistracy sitting at the Old 10,400,0001. had been voted towards the Bailey in Manchester, and they had done reduction of the unfunded debt, no reduc so, and by the Commanding Officer the tion had yet taken place. The effect of troops were checked in their outrageous the last Corn Act bad been to impose on conduct, and ordered back to their quarthe country a tax of 15,000,0001. a year, ters. The Petitioners now prayed the in favour of the landed proprietors. On House to take the case into its considerareal property, therefore, should chiefly tion. It was signed by upwards of 3,000 rest the burdeos that might be requisite persons, and he trusted would be attended to exlricate the country from its present to by the House. He concluded by movdifficulties. He would not meddle with ing that the Petition should be received. monies arising from trade or professions, At first the House appeared inclined to but he thought a tax of ten per cent, on reject it; but the Chancellor of the Ex. real property a most eligible measure. chequer having declared himself favourIt would produce 10,000,0001. and admit able to the inquiry, it effected an immeof a total repeal of the assessed taxes, diate change of sentiment, and the Pewhich amounted to 6,000,000
tition was ordered to lie on the table. Mr. Vansittart said, the accounts on the Mr. Dugdale rose to present a Petition table proved that the taxes of last year from the manufacturers and traders of the had not failed. In three quarters, in Eng town of Birmingham, slating the distress land alone, they had produced 2,190,0001. which prevailed in that town in consewhich, on average of the whole
quence of the stagnation of trade. year, was only 100,0001, short of the sum Mr. Brougham said, he could not entirely expected. The deficiency actually ex concur with the prayer of the Petition, perienced took place only in the Customs : convinced as he was that a parliamentary but, even in that department, he now en inquiry was not the one most likely to tertained a confident hope that the im. prove beneficial, either as regarded trade provement would be as progressive as it or agriculture. The only inquiry which was in the Excise,
could be useful must be one originating After some observations from Mr. J. with Ministers, into which the GovernSmith, Mr. Baring, and others, the motion ment would bring all its information was agreed to.
and influence. The present Ministers did
pot, however, appear disposed to go into House of LORDS, May 12. such inquiry ; nor were they, as he beLord Holland presented a petition from lieved, equal to it. Indeed, not any party
548. Proceedings in the present Session of Parliament, (June, in the House possessed sufficient talent to them effected. He earnestly entreated form an Admioistration equal to those the House to consider what would be the great objects-(Hear, hear!)
effect of confirming the appointment of Mr. Spooner 'strongly urged the House which he complained. He concluded by to immediate inquiry ; and in the course of moving that the House concur with the his speech read a letter, stating that the Commissioners, that five Barons of the nail-makers in the neighbourhood were Exchequer in Scotland were unnecessary, already in a state of insubordination, and that four were sufficient for all the driven to it by distress; and that the col. business of that Court. liers and iron-workers had threatened to The Lord Advocate justified the projoin them. He also stated, that in the ceedings. The business in the Jury Court first four months of 1818, 5147 bead of had so increased as to require the whole cattle were slaughtered in Birmingham ; attention of the Lord Commissioner, more whereas in the first four months of 1820 particularly as the Lords of the Session only 2783 were slaughtered. In the same could give very little aid to him. There town 11,479 sheep were killed in the first could not have been a better selection four months of 1818, and only 8268 in made than that of Sir P. Murray, who the first four months of 1820.
bad been Remembrancer since 1799. It
ought also to be observed, that, on his May 15.
appointment as Baron, the office of ReLord A. Hamilton addressed the House membrancer ceased, pursuant to an act on the appointment of a fourth Puisne some time since passed, by which half the Baron in the Court of Exchequer in Scot- salary of a Baron was saved to the public. land, in direct opposition to the Report of There had been five Barons at and since the Commission of Inquiry respecting the the Union, and he saw no reason why they Courts of Justice. Not a single sugges should be reduced to four, merely because tion of that Commission had yet been there were only four in the English Court acted on, and in this case, their recom of Exchequer. The Scotch Court, in ad. mendation for reducing the number of dition to its other business, had to pass Barons, on a vacancy, to four, including gifts and tutories, and to grant charters of the Chief Baron, had been treated with property holding of the Crown. The Com. complete contempt. His Lordship con mission, in recommending the suppression trasted the duties of the Scotch Court of of one of the judgeships, had exceeded Exchequer with that of England, and their powers, which extended only to per. shewed that a Baron in the former, com quisites, fees, and emoluments. The late pared with one in the latter, enjoyed the Lord Chief Baron had never been absent next thing to a sinecure. Altogether it at one time more than a year.
He chiefly sat only 60 days in the year; the average resided at Bath, but he generally went to number of causes did not exceed 100 per Edinburgh to attend bis duty during term. year ; and all its Treasury business was In the sequel of the discussion, the done by the Remembrancer. The late motion was supported by Sir J. Newport Lord Chief Baron (Dundas) had not sat and Mr. Tierney, and opposed by Lord in the Court for three years preceding his Castlereagh, who moved the previous ques. death, and no inconvenience had been sus tion, and by Mr. W. Dundas. tained by the public, or his colleagues, After some further discussion, the House from his absence; and when Sir S. Shep- divided on Lord A. Hamilton's motion, herd was appointed his successor, it was when it was negatived by only 12-the considered, both by bimself and his friends, numbers being :, for the motion, 177; that the situation was all but nominally a against it, 189. sinecure. The Lord High Commissioner Subsequently, Lord A. Hamilton proof the Jury Court had been appointed a posed the following motion, and on which Baron, in order to add 20001. a year to Lord Castlereagh moved the previous ques. his emoluments, with scarcely any ad tion-namely, “ That it is the opinion of dition to his labours.
The paper pro
this House, that the vacancy occasioned in duced by the Lord Advocate, containing the Scotch Exchequer Court by the rethe opinions of the heads of the Scotch signation of Mr. Baron Adams should not Courts, with the exception of one, in fa- have been filled up until the report of the vour of continuing five Barons, was un Commissioners had been laid before the deserving of any consideration. If the House and examined.” The previous fear of an equal division, without a cast question was carried without a division, ing vote was to determine the question, and, of course, Lord A. Hamilton's motion then the English Courts, instead of four
was lost. Judges, should be reduced to three, or in. creased to five. There were other reforms
House of LORDS, May 16. to be executed in the Scotch Court of Ex Earl Stanhope, in an able and lengthened chequer, but after the example that had speech, called their Lordships' attention been just given, he despaired of seeing to the distress of the working classes.
1820.) Proceedings in the present Session of Parliament, - 549 Much had been said of late (his lordship
May 17. remarked) on the necessity of removing Lord Althorpe brought in a Bill for the matter of sedition ; the matter of se altering and amending the Insolvent dition, at present, was public distress; Debtors' Act. It was read a first time. and it seemed admitted on all hands that The House, in a Committee of Supply, the machinations of late employed in va voted 500,0001. on account of the navy. rious districts to promote disaffection, Lord Castlereagh moved the order of the could never have been successful, but for day for going into a Committee on the the existence and co-operation of that dis Civil List Bill; and after some opposition tress, His Lordship then took a review of from Mr. Bennet, the Speaker left the the various causes of this distress, at chair. The blank for the English Civil tributing it, among otbers, to excessive list was filled up with the sum of 850,0001. taxation, and the too great use of ma without any opposition. chinery, and concluded by moving the When the question was put, that the appointment of a Select Committee io en. blank left for the amount of the Irish quire into the best means of giving em Civil list should be filled up with 207,0001. ployment to the poor, especially in the Sir J. Newport objected to the new mode manufacturing districts.
of dividing the establishment into 13 The Earl of Liverpool declared he would classes, several of which comprised very not enter into the discussion of the topics incongruous departments. He further obintroduced by the noble Lord, because jected to the continuance of the additional another opportunity would shortly present 10,0001, a year to the Lord Lieutenants, itself, when it could be carried on with beyond the expiration of the present Lord greater practical advantage than at the Lieutenant's period of office ; thinking present moment. There was not a single the old allowance of 20,0001. a year fully position, in the speech of the noble Lord, sufficient. to which he was not prepared to give his This was denied by Lord Castlereagh, most direct and unqualified disapproba- who said the late Duke of Richmond had tion.
After some further conversatiou, crippled his fortune considerably whilst the motion was negatived without a di. Lord Lieutenant ; and even with the invision.
crease since that period, the salary did
not meet the charges. In the Commons, the same day, Col. After some observations from Mr. C. Davies, after bespeaking the indulgence Grant, Mr. Tierney, Sir W. Parnell, Mr. of the House for the motion with which Baring, and others, the motion was agreed he should conclude, alluded to the ap to. pointment to the government of Gibraltar, In the whole list of sinecures there was
May 18. not one more decidedly useless than the Lord Castlereagh, in reply to a question governorship of that place. It stood al. from Mr. Western, said, it was in conmost alone amongst sinecures ; so much templation of his Majesty's Government to so, that a Committee of that House some introduce a measure for altering the preyears since recommended that it should sent mode of gaol delivery, and to introduce be abolished as soon as ever it fell in. a delivery between the Spring and Autumn Yet, scarcely was the illustrious person Assizes, by which the long period of eight who recently held that office deceased, intervening months, during which there when, with most extraordinary haste, the was at present no gaol delivery, would be vacancy was filled up. And to whom was broken. It was the intention of the Atthe situation given? The same messen torney General to bring in a Bill immedi. ger who carried to the country the account ately after the holidays to effect this object. of the decease of the late governor (the On the question for reading the Report late Duke of Kent) took with him the ap of the Civil List Bill, Mr. Curwen said, at pointment of the Earl of Chatham, whose the present moment, the greatest oroament military glories might be summed up in of the Crown would have been economy the single fact, that he was commander of and retrenchment. The people had looked the memorable expedition to Walcheren for a considerable diminution of the Civil (Hear, hear!) This was of itself a suffi. List. cient reason to induce the House to agree Mr. Monk thought the salaries to our to an inquiry. His object was to move ambassadors were enormous, being double for the appointment of a Select Committee that of the French ambassadors. to examine into the whole military estab. Lord Castlereagh was of a contrary opilishment of the country.
nion. The salaries had been raised, in Lord Palmerston and Mr. C. Long re. order to do away with the large demands plied. Mr. Calcraft, Sir H. Parnell, Col. formerly made under the head of extra. Grant, and Mr. Ellice made a few re ordinaries. marks. The motion was ultimately nega. Mr. W. D. Harvey and Mr. Phillips tived by 125 to 45, Majority, 80. concurred in the opinion of Mr. Mook.
5.50 Proceedings in the present Session of Parliament. (June,
Sir R. Wilson thought it right to state, iu sbould be divided into two counties, of justice to the British ambassadors, ibat the which the North and East Ridings should calls on their hospitality were more ex. form one, and the West Riding the other. tensive than those which were made on By this alteration, there was no reason to the ambassadors of any other country. apprehend that the interests of the manuThe Report was then agreed to.
facturers would be promoted at the ex
pence of the agriculturists of the county ; May 19.
as the West Riding would return MemSir J. Mackintosh brought in Bills for bers attached to the manufacturing, and repealing so much of the 39th of Eliza. the North and East Ridings Members atbeth, the 21st of James I. the 4th and 9ih tached to the agricultural interests. of George 1. the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th of Mr. Canning concurred in what had George II. ; also the 1st of William and fallen from Lord Casılereagh. Mary, and an Act of the 12th George II. After some observations from Mr. Grenso far as they regarded capital inflictions. fell, Sir J. Newport, Mr. H. Smilh, Mr.
A petition from John Loudon Mc Adam, Hobhouse, and others, the Bill was read a praying a compensation for his services second time. during the last 25 years, in pointing out The Attorney General presented a Pethe most efficient means for improving the tition from the Warden of the Fleet prison, roads throughout the United Kingdom, praying indemnity for having given up Ro was, with the consent of the Crown, re C. Burton, Esq. who was a Member for ferred to the Committee on the highways. Beverly in the last Parliament. Mr. B.
Lord John Russel moved the second was a prisoner in the Fleet at the time of reading of the Grampound Disfranchise his election, and he was discharged by an ment Bill.
The reported evidence laid order of the House. An action was now before the House last year of the corrupt brought against the petitioner, for an esstate of the borough, referred to the cases of cape, by the creditors of Mr. Burton. New Shoreham, Cricklade and Aylesbury The petition was referred to the Commitas precedents, to a certain extent, for the tee of Privileges. measure now proposed, and adduced va. rious arguments for deviating from those House of Lords, May 25. precedents, so far as respected the throw A number of petitions from agricultuing the boroughs into the adjacent hun rists were presented. dreds, and for transferring the elective Lord Lauderdale observed, much had franchise to the town of Leeds, as was been said about economical reform, with proposed in the Bill, or as others had sug. which he did not agree ; but if a motion gested, to the East and West Ridings of for suppressing this board were to be Yorkshire.
brought forward, that was a question of Lord Castlereagh approved of the mea economical reform whicb he should be sure, so far as it went to provide a remedy very much inclined to support. against the corruption proved to have ex The Marquis of Lansdown said, when isted at Grampound. But he did not think the subject came under discussion, he a sufficient reason had been assigned for should feel it his duty to take a different deviating from the precedents of New view of it from the petitioners. The LeShoreham, &c. by following which there gislature had not the power of preventing would have been a greater chance of suc the agricultural ioierest from sharing in cess, as the other House had already ap the general distress which affected the proved of that particular mode of remedy- country. ing the evil complained of. He could not The Earl of Liverpool moved the second agree to the transfer to Leeds on the prin- reading of the Civil List Bill, and exciple stated in the Bill, as to its trade, plained and defeuded its several provisions. population, wealth, &c. as that went to Lords King and Darnley objected to admit all that had been urged on the sub several parts of the arrangement.
The ject of parliamentary reform, and many second reading was then agreed to without other places would justly put in similar a division. claims. He should have less objection to lo the Commons, the same day, a contransfer the franchise to the two Ridings of versation took place on the presentation Yorkshire, but he thought the passing of of Petitions from Scotland for ao extension the Bill would be risked by travelling out of the bounties on linen exported, in the of the cases already recognized.
course of which the President of the Mr. Tierney argued in favour of trans Board of Trade said it was intended to ferring the elective franchise to Leeds. place the Scotch linens on the same foot
Mr. C. W. Wynn and Mr. H. Sumnering, as to bounty, with the Irish. proposed transferring it to the county of Lord A. Hamilton called the attention York,
of the House to an abuse of long standing, Mr. Beaumont explained the plan which as .to county elections in Scotland, by he bad suggested. It was, that Yorkshire which the right of voting had been de
1820.) Proceedings in the present Session of Parliament. 551 tached from the possession of the soil ; tend the demand for them. He thought so that it was possible for the whole repre that an advantageous relaxation might be sentation of Scotland to be in the hands made with regard to France. He would of those who did not possess an inch of admit French silks-compensating our land in the country, whilst the whole own workmen by a parliamentary grant ; landed property of the country might be and he would have French wines reduced in the hands of those who had not a sin to the same scale of import duty as those gle vote. The remedy which he would of Portugal and Spain. The noble Marpropose, on a future day, would not inter. quis then dereloped some of the princia fere with any existing rights. He would ples upon which the demand for produce continue their votes to those who now had increases, and illustrated by some famithem, but would, at the same time, grant liar, but striking instances, the apparently the right of voting to those who now had trivial occurrence by which an impulse is it not, though possessed of considerable sometimes given to manufacturing proproperty. He then moved that there be duce and demand. He next dwelt at laid upon the table of the House a copy some length on the timber trade, in which of the roll of freeholders in every county
be saw restrictions that should be re. in Scotland, as last made out, and as cer moved ; and upon the subject of a free tified by the sheriff clerk.
trade generally, his maxim would be, that After some observations from Lord Cas. freedom should be the rule, and restrictlereagh, Sir G. Clerk, and others, the mo. tion the exception. The noble Marquis tion was agreed to.
concluded with imp ressing upon the House
the wisdom of cultivating the market for HOUSE OF LORDS, May 26.
British manufactures in Ireland, and es. Lord Kenyon presented a Petition from tablishing intimate relations of amity and certain news.venders against the publica trade with the independent States of South tion of Sunday newspapers. His Lordship America, which could no longer return to said, the sale of such papers amounted to
the dominion of the mother country, wheabout 43,000, and that the matter they ther governed according to the odious sysa contained was in general most pernicious.
tem that had happily ceased io that counHe hoped Parliament would adopt some try, or by any better system substituted measure to prevent this evil.
jo its place. Lord Holland said, he would oppose The Earl of Liverpool gave an able and any such measure in all its stages.
candid statement of his views of the state Lord Grosvenor had still the same opi. of the country, and the course that should nion as to the injurious tendency of Sun. now be followed. He fully agreed that day publications which he entertained all classes of the industrious people were many years ago, when, in concert with identified in interests, and scouted the Mr. Wilberforce and others, he in vain speculations of the visionary theorists exerted himself to nip the evil in the bud. who supposed that the country could sub
The Marquis of Lansdown introduced sist if it were made exclusively agricultu. his motion for a Select Committee to in. ral or manufacturing. In order to prequire into the practicability of extending vent the people from being deluded or our Foreign Trade, with a very luminous agitated by the strange theories which were and comprehensive speech. He stated,
aboat, he would have Parliament express that in confining himself to the foreign com.
its decision without delay. It would let mercial relations of the country, he had the public know not only what Parliament no view to the particular interests of any
would, but also and he thought it no less one class of the community. He knew important, what Parliament would not that the interests of the agricultural and do. The noble Earl then, in order to commercial classes were mutual and in. show, that neither taxes, nor poor rates, separable. They Aourished or decayed nor tithes (though they had their effect) together. The noble Marquis justly and were the main causes of the public embar-forcibly added, that even legislation itself rassments_stated, from the parliamencould not succeed in sacrificing one of tary returns, the accounts of the domesthese classes to the other for the wants tic consumption of a variety of articles, and interests of both bound them together domestic and foreign, upon an average of by a necessity stronger than any law. a given pumber of years since the peace, He next took a detailed view of the dif. and an equal number during the war, ferent countries, our commercial relations from which he inferred, that since the with which could, be thought, be advan peace the consumptiog had increased. tageous, relaxed, and enlarged, always He next took the official returns of ex. deferring to present interests and even ports to show that our external European prejudices, and proceeding upon the prin- trade had fallen short only 600,0001. and ciple, not of sacrificing our own manu
this in the article of refined sugars, which factures to foreign, but of establishing was the natural consequence of the peace. such a modified reciprocity, as would ex. The falling off of our trade with America