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2. Lord Thanet is a very strong, big man?
had been with Mr. Fergusson, at this time upon the table ?
A. No, I had not.
2. I would ask you, how you came to leave the line of the Solicitors' box, as you was advancing towards Mr. O'Connor to go up where Mr. Fergusson stood ?
A. I did not go up to where Mr. Fergusson stood; the first time I placed myself, was by the right-hand side of the bar; Mr. Fergusson might have attacked me about the middle of the bar.
2. After you saw Mr. O'Connor jump over the bar, and when you was apprehending that you might be disappointed in arresting him, you went forth with all the rapidity you could Now, how came you to leave the course which directly led to him, to go up to the table where Mr. Fergusson stood ?
A. There had been a great many gentlemen in the corner, and I got a little farther to the right.
2. Towards the table where Mr. Fergusson was ? A. Yes.
2. He was standing upon the table, and you upon the ground?
A. No; upon the bench, I might be upon the ground some. times; for I was up and down several times.
2. Mr. Fergusson was upon the table, flourishing a stick over you, in his wig and gown, and you forcibly wrenched it out of his hand ?
A. Yes; and if he had not got away, he would have recollected me another time.
2. Now you take upon you to say, that when this transaction took place, he returned to the table, and went to his seat ?
A. He turned back, and went from me to the table.
Q. Then it was not until after this tranfaétion had passed, when Mr. Ferguson had flourished his stick in this manner, and had gone away towards the Judges, that you met with Lord Thanet?
A. Just fo.
Q. What interval of time might there be between Mr. Ferguson's going away in the manner you describe, and your meeting with Lord Thanet ?
A. A very few minutes—a minute or two.
2. Was he in the Counsels' feat, or where?
A. I don't know what you call the Counsels' feat; he was upon the benches : as foon as I turned from Mr. Ferguson, I was immediately shoved down.
2. Was the person you took to be Lord Thanet upon a bench by where the table stood ?
A. I cannot say.
2. Then Lord Thanet having no stick, what assault did he make upon you?
A. With his fift, in this way, shoved me down as I'was going forward-he shoved me back.
Q. And then you ftruck him?
A. Yes: as soon as I recovered myself, I struck him two or three blows.
Q. With what?
Q. Where was he at the time you ftruck him two or three times ? 1. When I hit him the first time, he fell upon his side, this way.
strike him after that?
Q. Mr. Fergusson did nothing to endeavour to extricate
ftrike any body else but Lord Thanet ? A. I do not know that I did ; I might by accident.
any body else besides Lord Thanet, it was by accident?
Q. Did you see either Fugion, Adams, or Wagstaffe, who were there, strike any body?
A. No, I did not.
Mr. Garrowm-Do you remember seeing Fugion frike any body?
2. You said you was not before acquainted with the person of Mr. Thompson?
mr. Gibbs---This gentleman (putting his finger on Mr. Thompson.)
A. No; the next gentlemen.
2. This gentleman ? (putting his finger ox Mr. Bonney.) A. Yes ; I think that is him.
Sir Edward Knatchbull fworn, examined by Mr. Adam,
2. Were you at the trial of O'Coigly, O'Connor, and others, at Maidstone ?
A. I was.
2. Were you present in Court at the time the riot took place?
A. I was.
Q. Will you state to my Lord and the Jury, whether yoa faw Rivett, the Bow-Atreet officer, engaged with any persong and with whom?
A. Previous to the sentence being paffed upon O'Coigly, I saw Rivett, the Bow-ftreet officer, on the prisoner's right hand ; he produced some paper, which I understood at the time to be a warrant from the Duke of Portland to secure the person of Mr. Arthur O'Connor; after that, there was some conversa. tion passed between the Judge and Rivett, which I do not im. mediately recollect. I saw Lord Thanet seat himself under the prisoners at the bar, immediately at the conclusion of the fentence being passed upon O Coigly. I saw Rivett, who appeared to me to be placed in a fituation in order to prevent Mr. O'Con. nor's escape. I saw Mr. O'Connor put his right foot, I think it was, upon the bar, his left hand upon the railing, and his right hand either upon some person's shoulder that was fitting under, or else upon the rail, and jump into the crowd. I can only speak now as it struck me at the time; it appeared to me that Lord Thanet rose from his seat as soon as Mr. O'Cannor jumped into the crowd; he rose from his seat in order to prevent Mr. Rivett from fecuring the person of Mr. O'Connor. There was some person who it was, I cannot pretend to say ; but it was some perfon rather with a bald headma person whom I should not know again if I was to see him
Can you tell how he was dressed ? A. No, I cannot; but there was some person who took hold of Rivett, at least it had that appearance to me in the bustle ; he took hold of Rivett, and pulled him, endeavouring to keep him back; Lord Thanet was between Rivett, and where Mr. O'Connor had leaped out of the pound. I know nothing further; that is all I saw of the business. I cannot pretend to say what passed afterwards.
2. Did you see any fighting, or any blows struck ? 1. It did appear to me, but I can by no means speak pofi. tively to it, that when a person, whoever it was, was en.. deavouring to keep Rivett back, Rivett, if I may make the gesture, for I do not know how to describe it, Rivett, in this kind of wax, fruck Lord Thanet in the side, as it appeared to
me; but I cannot say whether he struck Lord Thanet, or not, at that distance; nor did I see him make a blow at any person.
2. Are you sure that Lord Thanet was standing in that part of the Court ?
A. I am quite certain that he went there when sentence had passed.
Thomas Watson sworn, examined by Mr. Wood.
Q. Do you remember the Judges giving any directions not to discharge the prisoner?
2. Do you mean before the sentence of death was pronounced ?
A. Yes; I believe it was, to the best of my knowledge.
2. Before the sentence was finished, did you say any thing to Mr. O'Connor?
A. I did : I said, “ Mr. O'Connor, remember you are not to be discharged, though you may be acquitted." He said, “ Why?" and I said, “ Because I have no authority to difcharge you, and therefore you must not go.”
2. Was any thing said after that to Mr. O'Connor by any body?
A. A person just below him, after sentence was passed, said to Mr. O'Connor, “ You 'are acquitted; what do you stand there for ? why don't you jump over?”
Q. You don't know who that person was, I suppose ?
Ā. No; Mr. O'Connor said, “ Mr. Watson says, I am not to go :” the gentleman below faid, “ Píhaw! you are acquitted ; what do you stay there for? jump over.” He instantly sprung, and I instantly caught hold of the skirt of his coat as he got over, and held him ; I then cried out, “ Stop him, stop him!” There were some of them shoving him behind to thove him through the wicket, and others shoving him back; but he was fo secured, that they got him back into his place again.
2. Did you fee Rivett?
À. I called to hiin, or his companion, and said, “ I wish you would go out and get some conitabies and aftftants ;" for I suspected there would be something amiss by and by.
Thomas Adams sworn; examined by Mr. Fielding: 2. You were coachman to Mr. Justice Buller at the time of the trial?
A. I was.
Q. Tell my Lord, and the gentlemen of the Jury; what you observed in the Court after Mr. Justice Buller had passed sentence of death upon O'Coigly? Firit of all, where was your situation ?
A. At the wicket-door that leads into the body of the Court, and that part of the Court that the spectators stand in:
2. By the Jury-box? A. Yes.
Q. Now, when sentence of death was passed, what did you observe going forward in Court ?
A. Some person said, “ Spring," but who, I know not ; immediately Mr. O'Connor jumped over the bar into the body of the Court:
2. Did you observe the person of the man from whom the voice came?
A: No; I did not; he came to the wicket-door, where I stood, and immediately caught him by the collar.
Q. Then he had made his escape so far aš to get to the place where you were !
A. He had; I caught him by the collar of the coat, and says, “ I'll be damned if I let you go ;and immediately the wicket-door was opened ; I took the wicket-door in my left hand, and pulled it to, and bolted it ; and the moment I had bolted it; some person knocked me down.
2. Did you see that person afterwards, to know him. Ă. My whole attention was to stop Mra O'Connor.
2. Then you don't know the person that knocked you down?
A. I do not ; I immediately got up and seized Mr. O'Connor again, and said, “ I'll be damned if I let you go, let the confequence be what it will!'
Q. When you had recovered yourself, and caught hiin again, do
yo!! remember who were the persons immediately about Mr. O'Connor ?
A. I saw several gentlemen between the officers and Mro O'Connor.
2. Did you know any of them by name; 29 it appeared afterwards?
A. I saw my Lord Thanet; his Lordship was as close to ine as poilibiemrather behind me.
Q: How far was that sitųation, in which you saw Lord Thanet, from the immediatc front of the bar from whence Mr. D'Connor had escaped ?