With regard to the other ships outside of the subsidized area, there are no ships built for the foreign-liner trade since World War II. You simply can't do it without a subsidy. And all the ships that were built during World War II were sold under the Ship Sales Act at approximately a 50-percent discount, so they are all subsidized vessels, every one of them, as to construction cost. I think it is important to remember that there is no such thing as a nonsubsidized liner, as far as construction-differential subsidy goes, in our ocean trade. Mr. COLES. Mr. Chairman, I don't want to break up unanimity here, and I'm not going to, but I think there is a fallacy in one respect. What Mr. May has said about most of the unsubsidized vessels having been purchased from the Government is completely correct. But I think that what has not been put forward is in many cases a vessel has been purchased from the Government at let us say a half a million cost merely to utilize its engine, and then owners, unsubsidized owners, have built as much as $6 million apiece in American yards on each of those ships. So that there is a substantial number of unsubsidized ships today having a higher capital cost than the brandnew ships have to the subsidized line owner. So I think that the statement that Mr. May has given must be elaborated upon in that manner. Senator BARTLETT. We will accept your statement. We will now switch and return to the bill itself. And I will ask Mr. Barer if he has any questions. Mr. BARER. I assume you have no objection to two technical changes in the bill, one at line 5 to change that capital "S" to a small "s," and to change the period at the end to a semicolon. Mr. MAY. No. Mr. BARER. That is the only question I have. Senator BARTLETT. Thank you, gentlemen. We hope the subcommittee will take up this bill at a very early date and that likewise the full committee may consider it soon. I think that you and Mr. Davis and his associates have made a powerful case. These changes, in my judgment, are absolutely necessary, and I shall so recommend to the subcommittee and to the full committee. Thank you very much. Mr. MAY. Thank you very much. Mr. ADAMS. Thank you, sir. Mr. COLES. Thank you. (Whereupon, at 11:07 a.m., the subcommittee adjourned subject to the call of the Chair.) S. 3328 and H.R. 15979 TO AMEND THE ACT OF AUGUST 1, 1958, TO PREVENT OR COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE WARREN G. MAGNUSON, Washington, Chairman JOHN O. PASTORE, Rhode Island A. S. MIKE MONRONEY, Oklahoma E. L. BARTLETT, Alaska VANCE HARTKE, Indiana PHILIP A. HART, Michigan ERNEST F. HOLLINGS, South Carolina NORRIS COTTON, New Hampshire THRUSTON B. MORTON, Kentucky HUGH SCOTT, Pennsylvania WINSTON L. PROUTY, Vermont JAMES B. PEARSON, Kansas ROBERT P. GRIFFIN, Michigan FREDERICK J. LORDAN, Staff Director May 1, 1968.. May 6, 1968. Memorandum of agreement between Department of Agriculture, Interior, WITNESSES Anderson, R. J., Associate Administrator, Agricultural Research Service, Brinkley, Parke C., president, National Agricultural Chemicals Association; Clapper, Louis S., chief, Division of Conservation Education, National Gottschalk, John S., Director, Bureau of Sport Fisheries and Wildlife, ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS AND INFORMATION Brigham, Edward, III, president, Michigan Audubon Society, letter dated Bronstad, M. T., Jr., M.D., Fort Worth, Tex., letter dated April 22, 1968- 6 51 Telegram dated May 16, 1968.. 6 Douglas, Philip A., executive secretary, Sport Fishing Institute, letter 52 Gutermuth, C. R., vice president, Wildlife Management Institute, letter 5 MacMullen, Dr. Ralph A., director, Michigan Department of Conservation: Mulliken, A. A., secretary, Chemical Specialties Manufacturers Associa- Penfold, J. W., conservation director, Izaak Walton League of America, Pesticide program, Bureau of Commercial Fisheries. 19 Pesticide-wildlife research accomplishments, 1960-68- 18 Tupling, Lloyd, the Sierra Club, statement-- 49 6 7989 6 (III) |