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ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT

APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1987

HEARINGS

BEFORE A
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NINETY-NINTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT

TOM BEVILL, Alabama, Chairman
LINDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana
BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida

VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska
VIC FAZIO, California

ELDON RUDD, Arizona WES WATKINS, Oklahoma BILL BONER, Tennessee HUNTER L. SPILLAN, GEORGE A. URIAN, DONALD P. SMITH, and Aaron D. EDMONDSON,

Staff Assistants

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PART 6
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY:

Federal Energy Regulatory Commission .............
Nuclear Regulatory Commission ........
Departmental Administration .........
Power Marketing Administrations ............
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JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi, Chairman EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York

CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California

JACK F. KEMP, New York LOUIS STOKES, Ohio

RALPH REGULA, Ohio TOM BEVILL, Alabama

GEORGE M. O'BRIEN, Illinois BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida

VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas

ELDON RUDD, Arizona JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania

CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan BOB TRAXLER, Michigan

MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts

BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana CHARLES WILSON, Texas

BILL GREEN, New York LINDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana TOM LOEFFLER, Texas NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington

JERRY LEWIS, California MATTHEW F. McHUGH. New York

JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida

HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota

JOE SKEEN, New Mexico JULIAN C. DIXON, California

FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia
VIC FAZIO, California

BILL LOWERY, California
W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina
LES AUCOIN, Oregon
DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii
WES WATKINS, Oklahoma
WILLIAM H. GRAY III, Pennsylvania
BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey
BILL BONER, Tennessee
STENY H. HOYER, Maryland
BOB CARR, Michigan
ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York
RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
RONALD D. COLEMAN, Texas

FREDERICK G. MOHRMAN, Clerk and Staff Director

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THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 1986.
FEDERAL ENERGY REGLULATORY COMMISSION

WITNESS
ANTHONY G. SOUSA, ACTING CHAIRMAN FERC

Mr. BEVILL. The subcommittee will come to order. Chairman Sousa, I just want to say at the beginning that we're certainly pleased with your operation. And FERC has a very good track record, and we appreciate what you all are doing down there, and I'm sure you're going to carry on in the usual tradition. So we're pleased to have you with us for your first visit with this committee.

Before you begin your statement, I would like to call to your attention a situation involving the SEGS-II project. We have discussed this before and I know you're aware of my interest in it.

Do you agree that on this project, and similar projects, FERC should not change its policies and rules in midstream, even in some cases after the projects are finished?

Mr. Sousa. Yes, Mr. Chairman, I do agree. It's a question of an element of fairness here. And if we do enunciate any policies or rules at the early stages of any matter, then it's only fair that we do not change these policies or rules later on because there would be reliance, and in some case detrimental reliance, on those rules and policies. Mr. BEVILL. Yes. Mr. Fazio. Mr. Chairman, would you yield? Mr. BEVILL. Yes.

Mr. Fazio. I want to thank you for asking the question. I appreciate the answer. And I, simply on behalf of people interested in renewable energy and certainly the people in my State, want to lend support to your efforts and thank you for those you have made in this regard.

Mr. Bevill. Yes. We're talking about the world's largest solar project there that is completed, and then someone comes up and says oh, we're not sure you ought to even have a license. And that sounds like the way that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission used to operate. Fortunately they are improving now. They used to wait until the plant was built, and then they'd say why, you can't use that material, those pipes don't meet the standards. And we're experts on that kind of thing, so we sure don't want you all to get into that.

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