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throw on others the burden of new 10th of April he meant to submit modelling; but that they would un- a motion on the subject of the curdertake the business themselves, and rency; and also that another hon. devise proper measures for the pro- friend of his meant, on Monday tection of the creditors.
next, before the ordnance estiSir M. Ridley agreed with the mates were voted in the committee hon. member for Bristol as to the of supply, to submit a motion renecessity of altering the present specting the Barbadoes 44 per cents. law, He should be extremely
Mr. P. Moore presented a petisorry to abandon the principle on tion from the manufacturers of Cowhich the law now stood; but there ventry, against the insolvent debtors' were many points, by the introduc- act; and he intimated, that unless tion of which the situation of the something occurred to prevent him, creditor might be greatly amelio- he should on Tuesday next move rated. He would give the creditor for a repeal of the present act. more power over the fraudulent The petition was laid on the debtor, who had, at present, too table. many facilities for the disposal of Sir Thomas Lethbridge presented his property.
a petition from Woodbridge, comSir J. Boughey expressed him- plaining of agricultural distress. self in favour of an alteration of the The petition was laid on the law.
table. Mr. H. G. Bennet animadverted Lord A. Hamilton postponed, until on the alteration which had been Tuesday the 6th of May, his momade in the insolvent debtors' act · tion respecting the Scotch burghs. in the other house of parliament, Mr. Lennard postponed, until and concluded by observing, that Tuesday the 25th of March, his the law, as it now stood, was a le- motion for an account of the savings galized system of fraud.
under the third class of the civil The petition was then ordered to list. lie on the table.
Mr. Ricardo amended his motion On the motion of Mr. Huskisson, made on a former night, for aca new writ was ordered for the counts of the number of persons recounty of Inverness, in the room of ceiving dividends of a particular the Right Hon. Charles Grant, who amount in the funds. has accepted the office of vice-pre- Mr. C. H. Hutchinson presented sident of the Board of Trade. three petitions from Cork: one was
Sir John Sebright presented a pe- from the distillers and spirit-dealers, tition from the county of Hertford, praying to be put upon a par in cerpraying for a reform in parliament. tain parts of their business with
The hon. baronet also presented the British distillers and dealers; a petition from the inhabitants of the second was from the retail Bisliop-Stortford, praying for the spirit-dealers, praying to be alestablishment of a local jurisdiction lowed u make up compounds, as for the recovery of small debts.
was permitted to the same class These petitions were laid on the of traders in England; and the table.
third was from the merchants and Mr. Lennet gave notice, in behalf traders of Cork, complaining of the of an hon. friend of his, that on the heavy operation of the duty upon
coal.—These petitions were seve- laws, but rather as one of the greatest rally laid on the table.
importance to the moral cbaracter Sir J. Newport presented a peti- and condition of a great part of the tion from the inhabitants of the lower classes of the community. parish of St. Mary, Dublin, praying It was in that view alone that he for the revival of a committee to considered the subject; and he reinquire into the local taxation of peated bis anxious hope, that genthat city.
tlemen would give their fullest atMr. Plunket said, that to-mor- tendance to the discussion, for the row he meant to move for the re- purpose of stopping a course of devival of such a committee. The moralization which could not fail petition was laid on the table. to produce the worst consequences.
Col. Wood gave notice, that on Sir John Shelley was of 'opithe 23d of April he would move two nion that the demoralization of the resolutions relating to the law of lower agricultural classes was not settlement.
so much owing to the game laws, Tbe Chancellor of the Exchequer as to the distress which generally brought up copies of the King's let- prevailed. ter to the Earl of Liverpool, re. Mr. Curwen thought, that to the specting the presentation of his late existence of these odious laws a vast Majesty's library to the British proportion of the offences which Museum, and of the report thereon. came before the judges at the county -Ordered to be printed.
assizes was to be attributed. The Chancellor of the Erchequer one year there had been about 800 then gave notice, that on Tuesday persons proceeded against on acnext he should move that these pa- count of them. pers should be referred to a com- Mr. Gipps was anxious to have mittee.
a return of the number of convic. Lord Cranborne brought forward tions under the game laws. bis inotion for the appointment of a The motion“ for a committee to select committee to take into con- inquire into the present state of the sideration the game laws. Up to laws respecting game, and to report the last month of the late year, the their opinion thereon to the house,” committals were 1,467 for viola- was agreed to, and the said contions of the game laws; and during mittee nominated. the last month 372 committals had On the motion of the Chancellor also taken place.
of the Exchequer, Mr. Brogren Sir John Sebright, in seconding brought up the report on the nathis motion, implored the house to tional debt reduction bill. take the subject into their most se- On the question " that these rious consideration. He conjured amendments be now read a second them to do so, not upon any specu- time,” lative opinion of his own, but upon Mr. Tierney put some questions bis actual knowledge, as a magis- upon the subject of the five millions trate of long experience, of the bane- of sinking fund, and wished to know ful effect of the game laws. He wbether, in the event of the bill would implore gentlemen, in ar- passing, the house were not pledged guing this question, not to look upon to raise that sum in oue way or it merely as one affecting the game other?
The Chancellor of the Exchequer A portion of the 47,000,0001. of assured the house, that the right expenditure would then be included hon. gent. was not inore anxious in the annuity thus given for the than he himself was, that this pro- 4,800,0001., the amount of the halfposition should not be misunderstood. pay and pensions. But to induce He would endeavour to explain to these parties, or a third party, for the right hon. gentleman how the it was immalerial to the argument matter stood. Fie took it, that with whom the contract was made, after having allowed for the to forego their claim to the full ex2,200,0001, of taxes which it was tent of the present charge, an anproposed to repeal in the course of nuity had been granted to them for the present year, the public income forty-five years, of 2,800,0001. derived from taxes, &c. might This being deducted, he certainly fairly be estimated at 50,000,0001. conceived that 2,000,0001. would He was now speaking exclusively be the result as a saving to the Goof the half-pay or dead charge. vernment. The obvious effect of The annual expenditure-stillomit- this would be to reduce the expenditing the arrangement which was ture from 47 to 45,000,0001. The nade last year upon the subject he revenue being 50,000,0001., and the bad just mentioned, but including expenditure 45,000,0001., surely the existing charge of the funded there
clear surplus of debt, and of the civil list, the army, 5,000,0001. of income. Now, supnavy, and ordnance services, and posing the 4,800,0001. to be proall other items of that description- vided through the acceptance of would amount to 47,000,0001. In some other party of the 2,800,000l. that case, the surplus would be annuity, the expenditure would be 3,000,000l. ; but he thought he was raised altogether to 49,800,0001., entitled to assume, looking to the and the same operation would raise plan regarding the balf-pay and the revenue to 54,800,0001. This pension list, and supposing it to statement equally left a surplus of succeed by the sale of the proposed 5,000,0001. ; and he thought himannuity-he was, he repeated, en- self entitled to contend, that this titled to assume, that such surplus therefore was a bona fide surplus. would be 5,000,0001.; and he Now he proposed to apply these would show the house how. He 5,000,0001. tu the reduction of the presumed that nobody would say, funded debt. So far that debt would that if Government could make an be reduced; and if he did nothing arrangement with the individual to increase the unfunded debt, but owners of these half-pay allowances only applied the 2,000,0001., of and pensions to receive collectively, which he had spoken, to the surand instead of the indetinite period plus, they would at the end of the during which their respective inte- year have reduced the funded withrests in such pensions and half- out increasing the unfunded debt. pay might subsist, an annuity of The right honourable gentleman 2,800,0001. for forty-five years, opposite (Mr. Tierney) next wished there would not be a saving for the to know how he (the Chancellor of current year to the extent of the the Exchequer) proposed to act difference beeween that annuity and through all the vicissitudes which the present amount of the charge. the income of the country might
in future years experience; and thought it, under the state of the seemed to tbink that government country, advisable to retain. He could not proceed upon the princi- confessed, indeed, that he was sanple of having a sum of 5,000,0001. guine enough to anticipate that such for their surplus, unless they were a result would ere long be proprepared to state, that in every duced by a judicious revision of year, when some fluctuations of all the branches of public expenthe revenue might have the effect diture, and by a careful of bringing the actual income mination into those means by somewhat below such an amount which the revenue might be most
would yield a surplus of conveniently and advantageously 5,000,0001., they would put on collected ; and for himself, as well fresh taxes, to raise that surplus as for his Majesty's government up to 5,000,0001. Now, in the generally, he could assure the house first place, he did not think this was that should the result of such a very probable anticipation; and in measures be to increase the surthe next, he did not imagine that it plus in question, weither he nor they would be possible even to regulate would ever be unwilling to give to the amount of that fund, or of the people the full benefit of such their finances, upon such exact an event. and minute principles as to be pre- After some observations from pared for every possible contin- Mr. Hume, Colonel Davies, Sir H. gency. He did not see why, if Parnell, and Sir F. Blake, the revenue should so fall short, amendment proposed by Mr. Hume they should not make the surplus was negatived, and the bill agreed up by means of exchequer-bills, to be read a third time to-morrow. some other temporary expe
The Chancellor of the Exchequer dient. He could not conceive why moved the third reading of this they should not be permitted to ap- bill. propriate a portion of the revenue Mr. Maberly said, he would not to the reduction of their debt, oppose this measure, as an oppormerely because it might happen in tunity would hereafter present itsome future year that they might self of stating his opinions. pot have revenue sufficient to re- Mr. Hume hoped that an excepserve the precise amount of such a tion would be made in favour of portion. A larger surplus he might the windows of rooms occupied as have had, but 2,000,0001. and up- schools. Many small schools, wards he had proposed to remit in where the young children of poor, taxes. He was not at all unwill- persons were sent for instruction, ing to state, that the principle were extremely crowded. upon which he recommended that The Chancellor of the Exchequer remission was this—that he thought thought they would come under it better to give the country the the exemption of shop-windows, benefit of such a reduction of taxes when on the ground-floor. than to retain, upon mere finan- The bill was then read a third cial grounds, a surplus beyond the time, and (with a few verbal amend5,000,000l. in question. This ments) passed. amount was as large a one as he The King's property bill was
read a second time, and ordered to peace or war. In peace it would be committed to-morrow.
be a disadvantage to be obliged to On the order of the day being have a certain number of apprenread for the second reading of the tices, when for nearly the same exmarriage act repeal bill,
pense the same number of able seaDr. Lushington moved that the men might be had.
In war ic bill be then read a second time. would be an advantage, when able
The bill was read a second time, seamen were difficult to be got, and with the understanding thót the when the tenure of their services discussion should take place on its was rendered uncertain by their linext stage. It was ordered to be ability to impressmeot (to which coinmitted on Tuesday.
apprentices in certain cases were The mutiny bill was read a se- not exposed). One object of his cond time, and ordered to be com- bill would be to make the advanmitted to-morrow,
tages equal in all merchant ships; On the motion of Mr. Hume, and this he proposed to effect by a there were ordered to be laid before clause that every merchant vessel the house a variety of returns re- in every trade should have an equal specting the amount of the public number of apprentices in prodebt, in each year of the last seven. portion to her tonnage. For inAmong these were—a return of the slance, in a ship of from 80 to 200 gross receipt of the revenue, ex- tons burden, he would have one clusive of loans in each year, from apprentice; and so on, iv proporthe 5th of January, 1816, to the tion to the tonnage. He also pro5th of January, 1823 : also an posed to give to apprentices greater account of the actual expenditure, protection against impressment. At exclusive of the charge of the present those of 17 years of age sinking fund, in each year of the were liable to be impressed after same period.
three years service. He proposed Mr. Huskisson moved that the to extend that to four years; or that house do resolve itself into a com- apprentices should not be liable to niittee, to consider of the act 27 be impressed under 21 years. This Geo. III. for regulating the num- would be an advantage to merber of apprentices to be taken on chants, and afford them a greater board merchant vessels.
security in time of war. He also The Speaker having left the intended to extend a protection from chair,
impressment to certain petty officers Mr. Huskisson observed, that of merchant sbips who were not at great inconveniencies had arisen in present exempted. He had comthe merchant service, from the ex- municated on this subject with peristing regulations respecting appren- sons connected with our mercantile tices. In some vessels, particularly shipping interests, and they all apthose in the West India trade, a proved of the plan as one which certain number of apprentices were would be found very advantageous. required to be taken, while in the Another subject which he convessels in other trades no such obli- ceived called for the interference gation existed. Now this might of the house was, that of the deserbe an advantage or a disadvantage, tion of seamen from merchant ships. according to the circumstance of It was a common practice to give to