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Visitor ; Honourable J. 'O'Neil, 'M. P., influence? Was it not most monstrous, Visitor ; H. and J. Johnson, Fletcher that when so small a sum was required and Co., Lewis 'Tate and Co., J. Barry for such an object, there should be the and Co., J. Richards and Co., J. Bell, slightest disposition on the part of the Carrick and M'Chan, J. M. French, James Irish Government to withhold it? The Blair, M.P., London, and Samuel Thomp- Right Honourable Gentleman would reson, Mackamore Abbey, Ireland, Pro- present the Institution as if it were only prietors ; John Barnett, and W. and H. a private one, omitting to state that it M-Ewen, Belfast, Managers,"
had once received the support of GovernOn the motion that the petition should ment. Why, that support had been with jie on the table,
drawn he would not then say. The pe. Mr. Humr supported the prayer of the titioners were quite ready to meet, and petition, and trasted the attention of his indeed challenged every possible inquiry Majesty's Government would be called to into all parts of their conduct. They dethe subject. Should that turn out not to sired that every part of the conduct of the be the case, he hoped the Noble Lord by Institution, and of the character of every whom the petition had been presented to thing connected with it, should be scrutt. the House, would make a specific motion nized and canvassed with the utmost serespecting it.
verity. If what he had heard was true, Mr. GOULBURN expressed his appre- the support of Government had been with hension, that if an inquiry into private drawn from the Institution because Goinstitutions, such as the one under con. vernment had unsuccessfully endeavoured sideration, were required of the Com. to interfere and obtain the patronage of missioners in question, they would be the sustitution. overlaid with the immensity of their Mr. FORDE expresscd his conviction, business. The ultimate object of the that if the proposition were acceded to, petitioners was to obtain support from such a return would be made as would the public purse ; but there were many induce the House to consent to a very other institutions of a similar kind both liberal grant. The Institution was conin Ireland and in England, which were ducted in the most excellent manner; equally deserving of support.
and when the Catholics had their College Mr. ABERCROMBIE expressed his sur- at Maynooth supported by Government, prise at what had fallen from the Right for the education of Catholic clergy, it Honourable Gentleman. When he con- was only fair that the Presbyterians should sidered the nature of this Institution, he be allowed the same privilege in their had been so far from thinking that the own country. prayer of the petition wonld be opposed Mr. Spring Rice said, he did not by any Member of his Majesty's Govern- mean to enter on the defence of the Belment, that he had imagined they would fast Institution, as it had not been made express the utmost thankfulness and gra- the subject of attack; but he thought titude to the petitioners for their applica- that if any public establishments were tion. Perhaps the House were not aware required in a country, none could be of of the objects of the Belfast Academical more importance than an institution for Institution, and of the class of persons to the education and maintenance of the whom its benefits applied. They were Clergy. They did not reqnire a perniaapplied to the great body of the Protes. nent annual graut; all they wanted was tants in that part of Ireland. The object such assistance as would cuable them to was the education of those who were to render their own exertions available; and be the instructors of the Protestants, not it was his intention, if he could obtain ouly as clergymen but as schoolmasters. the concurrence of his Noble Friend The object was not, as those who had (Lord Arthur Hill), to move an Amend. heard the Right Honourable Gentleman's ment, which would open the whole ques. statement night be induced to suppose, tion; for he perfectly agreed, that the particular and individual, but general. It Presbyterians were just as well entitled was a most extraordinary argument on as the Catholics, to receive the assistance the part of the Right Honourable Gentle- of Goverument. He should now more, man, that the objects of the Institution as an. Amendment,-" That an hamble ought not to be promoted at the public Address be presented to his Majesty, expense, because Belfast was an opulent praying that he would be graciously town, the inhabitants of which, therefore, pleased to order that the Commissioners ought to take the charge upon ther- to be appointed to inquire into the state -selves. Ought private means to be called of Education in Ireland, should take into upon for the support of an Institution their carly consideration the condition which was to educate clergymen, not for and resources of the Belfast Academic large benefices and no flocks, but for Institution, and report their opinions on large flocks, among whom they were to the same to the House." reside, and to exercise the most powerful Sir Joun New Port said, the real ques.
tion which the House had to consider the attacks of his enemies, than to refuse was, not whether a Parliamentary Grant money when it was sought. But at the should be made, but whether an Iustilu. same time it was his duty to consider tion, founded for the purpose of supply- well whether the money was demanded ing the Presbyterian Church of Ireland on a sound privciple; and he was sure with Ministers of the Gospel, was or the House would agree with him that it was not a fit and legitimate subject for would be most inexpedient to divert the inquiry; and if the Right Honourable attention of the Commissiouers from the Gentleman (Mr. Goulburn) should be of more important inquiries upon which 'opiniou that it was a fit subject of in- they were about to enter. quiry, he could not see how he could Mr. SPRING Rice said, the Right Hon. resist the motion which had been just Gentleman had misunderstood him in made by his Honourable Friend (Mr. S. supposing that he meant the CommisRice).
sioners should enter upon this inquiry Mr. GOULBURN said, it would seem first : the expression used in the Address that he had been misunderstood in what was early, and it contained not one word he had stated to the House. What he at all about a mouey grant. did say was this; not that this subject Mr. C. HUTCHINSON said, the Right was not a fit subject for investigation, Honourable Secretary had treated the but that it would be iuexpedient to divert question as if he had been taken by surthe attention of the Commissioners from prise. He talked about paramount imother subjects of paramount importance, portance; but he would ask him, what' and io occupy them with a question, subject could be more important than now, for the first time, introduced to the the education of Ireland ? He could not House. He could never have supposed see how the Right Honourable Gentlethat the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. man could justify to himself his opposiRice) would, on the occasion of present- tion to the motion; for the simple ques. ing a petition, have, without any previ. tion was, whether the Commissioners ous notice, mored for an Address to the should inquire into this Institution? Crown. This was certainly neither the , Mr. GOULBURN said, he thonght the most ordinary nor the most convenient main object of the motion was a Parliacourse ; it was a course, although within mentary grant. His object was not to the orders of the House, yet by no oppose Presbyterian education, but to means conformable to its practice. He avoid the interruption of the inquiries of was quite sure that when the Right the Commissioners. Hon. Barovet (Sir J. Newport) had pro- Mr. ABERCROMBIE said, he had dis. posed the appointment of the Commis, tinctly understood the Right Honourable sioners, if he (Mr. Goulburn) had risen Gentleman 'to say, that the Commissionaud proposed, that when they should be ers could not, and would not, inquire appointed, the first subject of their in- into the subject. quiry should be the Belfast Institution, Sir John NEWPORT said, that when he the Right Honourable Baronet would had moved for the appointment of the hare been the first to state, and he would Commissioners, he had stated, over and have been supported by all his friends, over again, that they should embrace all that the object of such a proposition was institutions relating to education; and i to render nugatory the exertions of the he had not so expressed himself, he had Commissioners, and to divert their atten- fallen very short of the object he had in tion from the great object of their in- view. quiry. The Honourable and Learned Mr. Peel said, a charge had been made Genileman (Mr. Abercrombie) had said, against the Government of Ireland, at that the support of Government had been the period when he was connected with withdrawn from this Institution, and that it, to which he pleaded not guilty. He the reason of it was that they wished to must disclaim altogether, on the part obtain some patronage in its manage- of the Government, any view of patronment. He could only say, that whatever age, if by patronage were meant any occurred, took place before he had any desire to have the vomination of the pro'connexion with the Irish Government : fessors or ministers. It was about nine and if the Hon, and Learned Gentleman or ten years since the transaction had would inquire into the matter, he would occurred which had been alluded to, and find that the Goverument had proceeded not expecting this discussion this evening, npon very different grounds. He was he had not refreshed his memory with quite aware that there was no situation the circumstances. Formerly the Pres. in which a respousible servant of the byterian clergy of the North of Ireland Crown could be placed, more disagree- received their education and obtained able to himself, more unpalateable to his degrees in the Scottish Universities; the friends, or which laid him more open to practical result of which system had been, to provide for the North of Ireland as
LITERARY. respectable a body of clergymen as ever
The Milton Manuscript.-This ans. existed. He considered that it was a great disadvantage to form a college in 410. for the beginning of the ensuing
iously-expected work is announced in au extensive manufacturing town; and judgiug not merely from the result, but Vuiversity press, under the care of Mr.
year. It is printing at the Cambridge forming an opinion à priori, he thought Sumner, librarian and historiographer to that great benefit must arise from a com. his Majesty. The Latin title is as folmunication between the different parts of
“ Joannis Miltoni Angli de Docthe United Kingdom: it encouraged kindly crina' Christiana Libri duo posthumi, feelings, dispelled prejudices, and promoted those sentiments which he was original will be published a translation
nunc primum typis mandati.” With the sure the House would be desirous to by Mr. Sumner, entitled "A Treatise cherish. He had very great doubt as to
on Christian Doctrine, by John Milton." the propriety of interfering with the established system of education, and he must avow that there was much in the it may be known to our readers that
Mr. Hone and the Quarterly Review. proceedings of this Institution which he disapproved. What he had said to them Mr. Hone some time ago published a was this — if Government consented to
book called The Apocryphal Gospels. grant the vote, they would then become for this he was charged with
fraud and impiety, by a Quarterly Reresponsible for their proceedings. All the Government required was some check viewer. He put out a reply under the over their proceedings, and that check to
title of “ Aspersions Answered," iB be composed of two persons of the high
which he ingenuously confessed some est rank in the North of Ireland, who errors, but convicted the Reviewer of should take a part in their deliberations ; nist has returned to the charge, with
other crrors. The anonymous antago but they disclaimed all intention of interference with the vomination of their blunders and new abuse of Mr. Hone.
an acknowledgment of some of his own professors. He therefore hoped the Hon. The latter
gentleman bas published a reGentleman opposite (Mr. Rice) would be satisfied with a promise of inquiry at a the title of " An Article for the Quarterly
joinder, in a sixpenny pamphlet, under future period. When the more pressing matters should have been gone through, Review," in which he shews great ability then it would be very easy to give in- viewer of such dishonest artifices as must
and spirit, and has convicted the Restructions to the Commissioners to in- disgust even the proprietors of the Quar; quire into this Institution. Mr. SPRING Rice observed, that pro
terly, now, at least, that they are exposed vided the great object of inquiry was
to the public. obtained, it was of little importance whether it was effected by the interposi.
We see with pleasure an adrertisement tion of Parliament, or by the orders of of the whole Works and Correspondence the Crowu. As there was now an under of Sir Thomas Broune, Knt., M. D., of standing relative to that point, he should Norwich, under the care of S. Wilkin, move that the Amendment should be F.L.S., and Member of the Wernerian withdrawn.
Society of Edinburgh. With the Works Mr. BROUGHAM was disposed to be- will be given the Critical and Explanatory lieve that the Irish Government had no
Notes and Observations of Sir Kedelm view, by any interference on its part, to Digby, Dean Wren, Lefebvre, Keck, Moltpossess itself of the patronage of 'the kenius and others; and also the Life of Institution; but he did think that the Browne, by Johnson, with copious and tendency of that propositiou was even- interesting additions. The Editor protually to obtain an absolute controul orer
mises that some of the works shall be the Establishment.
collated with original MSS. Mr. Secretary Peel said, that when a Veto, over the appointment of the Pro.
NOTICES. fessors, was offered, he declined it as a We are requested to give notice, that most invidious exercise. He well re- a New Unitarian Chapel will be opened collected, indeed, the discussion had in YORK STREET, ST. JAMES'S SQUARE, brought it to his recollection, that in the for divine service, in the month of Deletter alluded to, he disclaimed any in. cember next. Full particulars hereafter. terference in the appointment of the Professors.--The Petition was ordered to The Rev. S. ALLARD, B, A., has accepted be printed.
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We agree with the “Unitarian" that ridicule is a dangerous weapon ; but he must admit that it was successfully and usefully employed against idolatry not only by the Protestant Reformers, but also by the Jewish prophets. If theologians will persist, as much against scripture as reason, in making religiou ludicrous, on whom but themselves can the blame fall?- The whole is matter of taste, and we so far coincide with the.“ Unitariau" as to prefer argument to wit.
The Editor has received Five Pounds from the Bridport Fellowship Fund for the Chapel at Todmordeu, Lancashire; and will thank the Treasurer of that Chapel to intorın hinn by letter (post paid, directed to the publishers', in wbat way the sum can be remitted. At the same time, it might be advantageous to the interests of the Chapel, it such information were conòmunicated in the letter, as could be laid before the public, relative to the financial state, present coudition and future prospects of the Society.
The Advertisement of Subscriptions to Welburn Chapel, near York, (amounting 10 £1989) came too late for the present month, but shall be inserted the vext.